that was not so with mr. fager as you saw, he appeared to be very angry about these and didn't engage in the facts of them, just flatly denied. >> sorry to interrupt you. you quote an employee saying the hypocrisy of a news program shutting down an investigative print report is incredible. that's really the stunning thing about this. >> well, you make a good point there. i think that of the many ways in which this story forces us to take a hard look at the culture at our most important businesses, one of the most important facets of that is that it forces us to take a look at newsrooms and the need for accountability in the places that shape the facts that we receive. and for a lot of the women in this story, we talked to one investigative journalist who said if i am the business of confronting hard truths myself for a living, how could i turn a blind eye to this? >> ronan farrow, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you, brian. >> you can find this full piece on the new yorker website. you might be wondering

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