mr. falk, and you get paid for what you do the same way doctors and lawyers get paid calling you lobbyists would not be a stigma but a label as to what your business is. am i correct in that assumption? >> no, i am not a lobbyist. a nonpartisan policy research institute. what i articulated, alternative to the affordable care act [indiscernible] >> you would not be here if you were supporting and trying to improve the health care. you are here basically -- your income is based on the fact that that is your professional position. >> i would strongly disagree with you. >> do not disagree. just say what it is. >> my positions are on the record and i write them everyday on the internet. >> i am asking you whether you get paid for advocating your position. that is all. i do not doubt you are a professional. >> i do not get paid to advocate a particular position. >> when you were working for the person running for president, did you get paid for advocating a healthcare system within? >> i did not. >>

mr. falk, are you a member of nfib? >> no, i'm not. sorry. >> i did not want to put you on the spot. mr. mcdermott pointed out we have healthcare.gov. there are a lot of sites that small businesses can go to to get the facts. that is what i am hearing from folks back home, "we want the facts of what is happening and what we need to do prepare." if we could focus on that and have honest conversations ike we are trying to have today, i think all of us will be much better off -- i like we are trying to have today, i think all of us will be much better off. >> republicans want american people to have good quality healthcare. what we see this as is not about a political issue, about having the the bill failed, we see this as definitely something that leans toward socialism. socialism is known around the globe to fail time and time again. i remind my friends on the other side of the aisle, as you may remember from the 2010 debates these are the claims we were making --this is trying to centralize the healthcare system in washington which has

they might talk to folks like mr. falk out there trying to run a business and create jobs instead of doing what we have clearly identified and has been admitted to light trucks on the other side when the on a stand behind closed doors that this wasn't to be the final product and as mr. ryan talked about. .. that target continues to move, and with every new policy or extension or waiver or consideration that they're giving to somebody else, i still don't know what to do. he's right. they're is a bad side out there. you just have -- it just announced publicly. and a stand that. we will go there and look at all the information, but i'm engaged. i am here. nike these events. conferences on business. they're probably 75 percent of small business owners to have no idea what's going on. they don't know about health care. >> i've been there. it's a wonderful, beautiful sight, but it does not do a thing to assist you. when you spend all this time trying to up comply with government regulations like this in rules that are incomprehe

so mr. falk, when you say the information is not existing, i will give you the information. >> i can't say it was not in existence, sir. >> well, it's here. in fact, on the first page of the regulations, which you referred to, you haven't looked at anyway, is a very interesting int of this legislation, the medical loss ratio. do you know what that is? >> no, i don't, sir. >> let me tell you what the medical loss ratio is. that is ainsurance companies now spend a rovide and specified percentage of premium dollars on medical care, which they were never age to have to -- which they were never able to have to do before. this is critical to everybody. i am glad you are not the only -- this is all about repeal. they don't want to change it. they want to do away with it. the election is over. the supreme court decision has been rendered. but we're going to continue to try to do away with this entire ece of legislation, which is reforming health care. more than 95% of business rs small businesses. they h

and mr. falk. i will get to mr. capretta.you're talking about fairness in your testimony that you submitted to us at the employer mandate will be delayed. it would only seem fair if the individual mandate is delayed as well. why should large companies be relieved from responsibilities but not workers? and you talk about fair to threaten taxpayers on the uninsured under the phillies but can you explain why you feel that we? >> yet. certainly the law requires that individuals beginning in 2014 sign up with the government improved interest either through the employer or through the exchanges, or the death penalty of the greater of $95 or 1% of their household income. that would be enforced in the tax system through what they are fun and taxes probably in early 2015. look at the situation we have now where you have many employees potential and not getting an offer of coverage from their employer because the employer requirement has now been suspended for a year. moreover, we don't know if they were offered coverage through their