i'm not ready to give this point to mr. faraj. >> i think we have time for one more question. >> two. >> it depends on my answer. >> this is true. >> all right. you in the middle, yes? >> mr. barnier, good morning. you mentioned earlier, deeper cooperation with nato. i was wondering, there are a couple of countries in the eu that are of course not members of the nato. >> correct. >> countries where right-wing populist parties use the maintenance of their neutrality to great effect. thinking particularly here of the freedom party in austria. how do you square the two between deeper nato cooperation and also presenting kind of parties or movements from using this to become kind of an anti-eu bludgeon? >> it's correct to say that several eu countries, ireland, finland, sweden. we have to respect this position. neutrality, if i may say. but it seems interesting to me, there's a reason why i think that what we are doing for the stronger european difference policies, global context. the trans-atlantic corporation, ireland. these countr