mr. feere's point is they are here illegally. they are here without documents. >> well, mr. ould feel comfortable in the fact that immigration deportations are going to continue. that we have a robust border patrol force. but that to me isn't really the answer. look, we have an immigration system that hasn't been updated since 1990. just think about that. so until congress does its job and appoints a ninth justice on the supreme court, passes immigration reform, we're going to have these dysfunctions, not just in the immigration system, but across many sectors of america. clearly we deserve better. >> if you look at actual data, deportation has fallen dramatically over the past five or six years, and not just deportations of non-violent people, but even deportations of criminal aliens has dropped down dramatically over the past five years. what this administration has decided outside deferred action, is they're going to narrow the scope of deportation and virtually you will not face deportation unless you are a violent criminal. in fact, obama's former ice director said the e