let me ask mr. feld and mr. iannuzzi, how can at&t institute up to 24% price increases if these markets are competitive? and do you find fault in claims by some that competition today eliminates the need for a regulatory backstop, particularly in light that hud's actions will effectively raise special access prices? >> sure. only a comment market player can go and raise prices ad hoc at that magnitude. it was quite shocking to see that take place. those network elements are very vital to run the connectivity within our networks. so if there was true ability to shop and pick, then they would be for closing those sales and those revenue streams. at&t is in the business to make profit, and to then just raise prices, if the market was working and it's an equal service, you would go pick the next lowest provider, provided they had equivalent capability. >> i would add that we often have a confusion between the underlying infrastructure and the things that are riding on top of -- we look at the number of wireless carr

let me ask mr. feld and mr. iannuzzi, how can at&t institute up to 24 percent price increases if these markets are competitive? and do you find fault in claims by some that competition today eliminates the need for a regulatory backstop, particularly in light of at&t's action to effectively raise special access prices? >> sure. only a dominant market player can go and raise prices ad hoc and to that level of magnitude. it was quite shocking to see that take place where those network elements are very vital to run the connectivity within our network. so if there was true ability to shop and pick, then they would be foreclosing those sales and those revenue streams. and at&t is in the business to make profit, and to then just raise prices, if the market was working and there is an equal service, you would go pick the next lowest provider, provided they had equivalent capabilities. >> i would add that we often have a confusion between the underlying infrastructure and the things that ride on top of the underlying i

thank you. >> thank you mr. feld. maybe we could create a government web site that we can all work through. nevermind. just kidding. >> all learn from our mistakes. >> we go to mr. john burke before subcommittee and we appreciate your participation pages board member and public service ordered or to the state of vermont. mr. burke we are delighted to have you here again and thanks for your testimony and please go ahead. >> thank you mr. chairman and ranking member eshoo and members of the sub committee. thank you for allowing me to testify on the topic of ip transition. in recent months under acting chairwoman clyburn the fcc has greatly increased its interaction with the states. we are particularly pleased with the outreach from the internal fcc task force to its own federalism task force. chairman clyburn is to be applauded for her leadership and for her outreach. in my home state of vermont we face many challenges. very little fiber is being deployed to the home and there are many areas without rock band access. the

cicconi and then go to mr. feld. >> i hate, mr. shimkus, to sound like a circular reasoning that this is one of the reason we need to have the trials out. we are fairly confident that we can design the system is in a way that takes account of public safety. moreover we fully accept that they have to work well for public safety. we can't have a new technology deployed where 911 doesn't work or other public safety features doesn't work. so i think we all recognize this is imperative and i think we need to stress test it to ensure that it does work and that we can transition at accordingly. but i think we all accept that the obligation has to be there and we simply can't replace the old technology with new technology unless 911 works. >> thank you mr. feld? >> planning proceeds trials rather than try il's proceeding planning. the thing that has been troubling to me is i guess we will need to have some information double gather in the trial. but before we say let's throw a switch and see what happens to public safety on this stuff i wa