mr. feldman. you said you had no specific knowledge of that release. >> no i -- >> we can have it read back. >> that'd be fine. if i said that, i misspoke. what i said was i was not involved in the e-mail that was asked about mr. feldman. i was aware that general motors had held decisions regarding construction of a new facility, or the revitalization of a facility to make small cars, yes, i was aware of that. >> request i think it's pretty clear that you jest with a straight face because i'm having trouble understanding when you're joking and when you're not because this all looks like a joke to me and to the american taxpayer. let's move on. mr. snowbarger, was the pbgc pressured by the auto task force to make the determination to terminate the delphi salaried employees' pension plans? >> no. >> if not, why then did the pbgc decide to terminate a plan that was funded in a similar manner and at a similar level as the average of the top 100 pension funds in america at the time? why was that decisi