mr. finkle: i wanted to tell you a quick story. and i wanted to talk about retention efforts in your state. 75 lowfog had about income women who were in the sew shop and the state put money into it. they went through it all. they put more technology into it. they went through it all. ultimately the state decided they could no longer put more money into london fog and gave up on the fabric industry in baltimore. i think we know that the fabric industry is still a alive and well and we just have to look at these things a little differently sometimes -- still alive and well and we just have to look at these things a little differently sometimes. they're probably could have been a place for 75 women at -- there probably could have been a place for 75 women at under armour. thank you. >> we want to thank kevin. great job. [applause] >> we will reconvene this meeting in des moines, iowa, in july for the 2016 summer meeting. this meeting is adjourned. caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] -- [captions copyright national cable sa

mr. finkle: this whole game of incentives i would argue is way out of hand. you know, the unfortunate thing, i can say that. none of my members can, individually. if they said it, somebody is going to declare that this is not a good place to do business. but representing them all, i can say that i know that they don't like them. , we don'te don't hold look at a lot of accountability around a lot of the incentives. know, someone says they are going to locate 50 miles outside of the city, and i need this as an incentive. what are you going to do as a governor, what are you going to do? say no? watch 500,000 jobs go away and say goodbye to them? to your neighbor is prepared do twice as what you are willing to do maybe. and that is a conversation that i hope the governors have from time to time. it has gotten well out of hand in a number of cases. but you have to have some standards. standards that you are using for your incentives in some places, and i have seen this more at the city level than at the state level, they will tie them to full-time jobs. they will