mr. fleming fleming because they seem to conflict. >> let me try to be a little clearer. i apologize if i haven't been. been. we were there because concern was raised that there was pressurized water in the mine and that might result in a blowout. that is the reason we were doing the action. the action was not intended to cause the blowout in the actual professional opinion of those in the mind. >> let me go a little further. anytime you do any type of work there is a plan. who approve approve the plan. >> don't you approve the plan? i'm troubled because i looked at bat video and i'm very familiar with 402 permits. i've been there done that. it didn't seem like you followed your own guidelines that would be applied to the private sector. i didn't see any of those there, so did you intentionally avoid your own guideline? >> they were plans. it was a plan that was developed -- >> did you follow 402 general 402 general guidelines. >> we followed all permits. >> no i didn't ask that. i said 402 guidelines. at two guidelines. it's a specific question. >> we did because -- >> w

mr. fleming fleming because they seem to conflict. >> let me try to be a little clearer. apologize if i haven't been. been. we were there because concern was raised that there was pressurized water in the mine and that might result in a blowout. that is the reason we were doing the action. the action was not intended to cause the blowout in the actual professional opinion of those in the mind. >> let me go a little further. anytime you do any type of work there is a plan. who approve approve the plan. >> don't you approve the plan? i'm troubled because i looked at bat video and i'm very familiar with 402 permits. i've been there done that. it didn't seem like you followed your own guidelines that would be applied to the private sector. i didn't see any of those there, so did you intentionally avoid your own guideline? >> they were plans. it was a plan that was developed -- >> did you follow 402 general 402 general guidelines. >> we followed all permits. >> no i didn't ask that. i said 402 guidelines. at two guidelines. it's a specific question. >> we did because -- >> whe

mr. fleming. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. fleming: thank you, mr. chairman. as a physician, a father and grandfather, let me first respond and say that in the process of a birth, abortion, there's no way one can tell whether that child is viable until you actually apply health saving tools and techniques to that baby. that argument that viability and all of that made in advance really makes no sense whatsoever. look, committing abortions is not health care for women. the baby dies a horrifically painful and ghastly death. her tiny hands and feet, brain, and spinal tissues are dissected and sold to the highest bidder and her mother is agonizing over the loss of a child. what happens if a child survives this barbaric and inhumane murder attempt? abortionists have been known to snip babies spines, throw children into plastic bags, or simply leave the infant to die away from a human touch and healing care. today's bill, however, will put a stop to the double murder attempt on a baby's life. it will protect children, infants who are born alive affording

mr. fleming. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. fleming: thank you, mr. chairman. as a physician, a father and grandfather, let me first respond and say that in the process of a birth, abortion, there's no way one can tell whether that child is viable until you actually apply health saving tools and techniques to that baby. that argument that viability and all of that made in advance really makes no sense whatsoever. look, committing abortions is not health care for women. the baby dies a horrifically painful and ghastly death. her tiny hands and feet, brain, and spinal tissues are dissected and sold to the highest bidder and her mother is agonizing over the loss of a child. what happens if a child survives this barbaric and inhumane murder attempt? abortionists have been known to snip babies spines, throw children into plastic bags, or simply leave the infant to die away from a human touch and healing care. today's bill, however, will put a stop to the double murder attempt on a baby's life. it will protect children, infants who are born alive affording t

mr. fleming about an unrelated, you said that a discharge was imminent, that you believed it was going to happen. which is it? your testimony to mr. bishop or your testimony to mr. flemingcause they seem to conflict. >> let me try to be a little clearer. i apologize if i haven't been. we were there because concern was raised that there was pressurized water in the mine, and that it might result in a blowout. that is the reason we were doing the work, was to try to alleviate that pressure. the actions we were taking were certainly not intended to cause the blowout, in the actual professional opinion of those on the site, that that would not happen. >> let me go a little bit further then, because any time you do any kind of work, there's a plan. >> there is. >> and so who approved the plan? epa? don't you approve the plan? >> essentially that's epa. >> i'm troubled because i looked at that video, and i'm very familiar with 4 h02 permits. i've been there, done that. >> yes. >> and there was no -- it doesn't even seem like you followed your own guidelines that would be applied to the private sector. i didn't see any of those there. so did you intentionally avoid your own gu