mr. forbes. >> thank you, mr. chairman him and madam secretary, general, thank you for being here. general, it's my understanding from previous discussions we've had that these cuts and all of the budget uncertainty is taking a bit of an impact on your morale and your ability for retention. is that i can? >> sir, we have not really seen a problem with retention to this point. i'm worried about a problem with retention over time, especially as the uncertainty continues and that's why we need to have a firm way forward, a number we can count on, and then aim towards the air force of the end of sequestration and make it the best it can be starting up. >> i agree because all the platforms come down to personal sometimes. madam secretary, you're shaking your head. let me tell you an item that is of major concern to me. recently we read this week that a cadet at the air force was forced to take a bible verse off of a private whiteboard in his room. the facts that i've received from the air force, so th

mr. forbes comments. i worry that we have -- in a school that is training leaders, that we have individuals who are so insecure and uncertain of they cannothat coexist with the free expression of religious views. madam secretary, in all likelihood you will be the last the secretary of the air force of this administration. 2017 is coming on us. i appreciate your mission. we finally have reached that point. we have the person that we can hold responsible for whether this air force succeeds or not on this very important issue. support for your that initiative. all of the things you are dealing with -- sequestration, uncertainty and budget, on the nonsense that we put you guys through -- the air force has the furthest ago. to go. of last page out november's "fire" report that shows the planned deadlines for a variety of things that the air force needed to get done in order to get to readiness. not one of them have been met. every one of those deadlines have been moved to 2014 or further. all of those deadline

mr. forbes on the uncertainty is taking a bit of an impact on the morale and your ability for retention. >> sure, we have not really seen a problem with retention to this point could be a more about the problem with retention overtime, especially as the answer in the continues which is no need to have a firm way forward, number we can count on an aim toward the air force of the industry and make it the best we can. >> i agree with you. madam secretary, you're shaking your head. let me tell you and i and that is of major concern to me. recently been read this week where a cadet at the air force was forced to take a bible verse off of a private white board in his room. the fact that i have received from the air force, these are not high pedicles, this cadet had no intention to offend anyone or any group, the private whiteboards have long been used to display an and reflecting their personality and from which the drop personal inspiration. they have long been used for setting inspirational quotes. and this is perhaps the most offensive, the air force of this was a teaching moment that the c

mr. steve forbes, editor-in-chief of forbes. david: good to see you. >> good to see you, david.o you think of tim cook said first of all? >> i think that was not just subject at hand. i think he is very, very worried and very, very angry. he has a lot of tough things out there. he had people comparing him to his predecessor. he is controlled man. and he let loose. david: he got mad specifically at a conservative stockholders, asking the company to move away from its standing behind global warming enthusiasts. but when you think of fiduciary responsibility to the stock itself, you don't want to be talking people out of buying the stock, do you? >> no. i think that was again, just undisciplined response. part of the problem when in terms of believers in global warring, david, is that the evidence is coming in that this is no sure thing -- global warming. 16 years ago, late 1990's they would be predicting we would have a lot of warm weather. they predicted seven years ago, melting of arctic would not mean we wouldn't have much snow anymore. they blamed the lack of warm weather on g

mr. forbes what do you think of this osce business they have, as she mentioned, trying to enter the countryhes. what do we need to do at this point in time? it's important to take as much internal pressure off the ukrainians and possible and i thinks that is by helping and supporting them with perhaps some loans and financial assistance to do that. secondly, we should be making them choose absolutely between the west or russia. i think the third thing is we've got to keep the verbal pressure up on russia, because if you don't have that pressure taking place, it's kind of a green light for the russians to do whatever they want to do. final thing is, we've got to get the world coming around to try to put a little pressure on russia financially, even though they won't be the ultimate determining factor, it's one component in doing that. >> thanks so much, congressman randy forbes and congresswoman kaptor good to see you both. >> thank you both. of course, tensions continue to escalate leading up to that referendum in crimea. >> interesting to see what happens when these sanctions actually star

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mr. unger. >> i'll give you an alternative reason for why you're not seeing this crisis. i wrote an article in the forbes column and quoted a senior policy adviser, a domestic policy adviser saying that if the congress is not going to get this stuff done but the president will. you know whose adviser it was, ronald wilson reagan. >> but people have not done it in the white house. >> no, no, no -- >> i was in the nixon administration, the last time we were accused of having an empiral presidency. but the difference was the media was in a different place. the media criticized and took very seriously the job as the watchdogs of liberty, now you have the president does whatever he wants. the media is like trained seals at the zoo, applauding whatever he does. >> historically presidents have had a very adversarial relationship with the press and have tried to see if there was wiggle room to keep things as private as possible and control the message. that is what they're doing, but why people don't care, politicians in washington don't hear their voice. they're about themselves rather than about the people. th