mr. fragosi can help. >> thank you. also wanted to first of all thank the small business commission and director andrizzi being here. we hear those concerns, and i can speak to those, as well. but yes. after working with d.b.i., and that's where we kind of received that feedback and working with the code advisory committee, that it would be better and easier administratively and more effectively to allow third-party professionals -- maybe there's somebody from d.b.i. who you can speak to specifically because i'm not exactly sure how that is defined and how that would be regulated, but that is a recommendation that we did agree with. >> and i would assume they're submitting something under penalty of perjury to avoid the issue of fraud. >> yeah. tom kwan. good morning. first of all, they would give the plans back to the owner, and then the owner would hire the professional. the owner would be responsible to do the inspections. and then, if we have any doubt, we can send our inspector to check out, too. >> well, in this c

mr. fragosi, are there other ways, are there other remedies? you know, we look to work with our legislative partners to make sure when these situations arise, that, you know, between our enforcement of code within the pervasive what you can do, what you can legislatively prescribe, and what the city attorney can do in terms of enforcement all really come together effectively to really deal with the core problem. people want us to solve problems, and it's very frustrating to them when we say it's not our job. we all have good reasons why we have limits to what we can do, but finding ways to better work in partnership and in concert to get the legislative, administrative, and enforcement teams all on the same page when we see really clear problems, you know, really is -- is what -- you know i mean hope we can do. as commissioner mccarthy pointed out, if it's a question of interpretation of use, and we can broaden that to really encourage people to find ways to make the properties more attractive and rentable, that's fabulous. if we can work with

mr. fragosi did, that this other ordinance that the mayor and supervisor brown, which deals with streamlining of small business permits actually does relate to this package on vacant storefronts, that is still awaiting coming forward for scheduling of any kind of a hearing. but we do have the details on that, and because it amends the planning code and the police code, it actually doesn't affect the building code directly, it's with this more indirect effect. so i don't expect any recommendation from the code advisory committee on this, but we will continue to work closely with the supervisor and the mayor's office on that package. i do want to mention that the mayor introduced yesterday, as you may have seen in that chronicle front-page story, an emergency shelter ordinance, which effectively will have d.b.i., the planning department, public works, and the fire department and some others probably setting up a memoranda of understanding arrangement with the department of homelessness so that building and fire, for example, would check life safety issues in these emergency shelters. but we wil