mr. frank bateman is the chief director at health and human services. mr. todd park is the chief technology aufrgs ot united states. mr. steve van rokel is the chief information officer of the united states. okay. and pursuant to the rules, as many of you have not been here before to see, i'd ask that you all rise to take a sworn oath. please raise your right hands. do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. let the record -- please be seated. >>> let the record reflect that all witnesses answered in the affirmative. this is a large panel and it's sfoing to be a long day. i suspect witnesses will be asked questions by both sides of the aisle. i would ask that you adhere to the time clock and come to a halt as quickly as possible when it hits red. please, understand, yellow is not an opportunity to start a new subject. it is an opportunity to wrap up. and with that, we'll go to our distinguished guests. >> we appreciate the opportunity to help uncover complex it ak wi

mr. frank bateman is the chief information

mr. frank bateman is the chief information officer at the department of health and human services. mr. todd park is the chief technology officer of the united states. roekel is the chief information officer of the united states. rules, asuant to the many of you will see, i was asked that you rise to take a sworn oath. please raise your right hands. do you swear or from the testimony you are about to give away the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? but the record reflect that all answers -- all answered in the affirmative. this is a large panel. it is going to be a long day. witnesses will be asked questions by both sides of the aisle. i would ask that since your opening statements are placed in the record verbatim that you adhere to the time clock and come to a halt as quickly as possible when it's red. yellow is not an opportunity to start a new subject. it is an opportunity to wrap up. with that, we will go to our distinguished guests, mr. pounder. >> we appreciate the opportunity .o testify in july, i testified before the sub committee on failed i.t. projects and other t

mr. bateman about the -- baitman, the hacker's report? >> i do not personally. as i mentioned there are security teams in place. including permanent security staff that coordinates with franks. >> mr. chairman, this is stuffer we have to follow up on. mr. park, are you a very bright and talented person. the federal government is lucky to have somebody of your caliber engaged in this process. it 250u8ly gives me comfort you're looking at this and spending time with it. i i have a fundamental question i want to ask you. have you ever shopped on amazon.com? >> yes, sir. >> on e-bay.com? >> no. we'll have to change and work with you on that one. >> i'm from california. >> amazon experience, when you put something in your shopping cart s. that considered a sail -- sale? >> no. >> thank you, i yield back. >> would the gentleman yield? >> sure. >> mr. chao, you have been fairly defensive about things being out of context. i am ' going to ask unanimous consent that the c.m.s. document of september 3, 2013, the memorandum, be placed in the record in its entirety, but before i do so, without objection, so ordered, but i want to make something clear. we had previously redacted informa