quite a long way to go and all that but seemed like a good opportunity. >> early conversations with mr. freud as to the possibility of having this sort of meeting. is that correct? >> my memory is it came together quite quickly. i seem to remember. i was on a tour day around country. i got a call or a text from matthew. i was just about to go off to georgia to visit georgia at the time of the russian invasion. and it just seemed like a possible opportunity to link up, but i seem it's to -- at the last minute that i might have got it wrong. >> we know that rebecca wade was there. did you have a conversation with her about this before you flew out, or not? >> i don't recall that. >> okay. now in 2009, mr. cameron the 3rd of may, you had lunch with james murdoch. this is page 04225. >> yes. >> would you think it's possible on that occasion that -- shooting off in dc? >> i don't recall directly what was discussed at the lunch. i'm sure over the years i discussed with with james murdoch. she strong view i have strong views they're not really the same and i'm sure we would have it discussions about

>> so presumably there was an earlier conversation or there had been earlier conversations with mr. freudhat correct? >> well, my memory is it came together quite quickly. i seem to remember i was on some tour day around the country. i got a call or a text from matthew. i was just about to go off to georgia to visit georgia at the time of the russian invasion. and it just seemed like a possible opportunity to link up. but i seem to remember it all came together very quickly at the last minute, but i might have got it wrong. >> we know that rebecca wade was there, but did you have a conversation with her about this before you flew out or not? >> i don't recall that, i'm afraid. >> okay. and on 2009, mr. cameron, the 3rd of may, you had lunch with james murdoch. this is page 04225. would you think it's possible on that occasion that you discussed regulatory issues including ofcom and bbc? >> um, well, i don't recall what was discussed directly at the lunch. i'm sure over the years i've discussed some of those issues with james murdoch. he's got very strong views on them i've got very strong

. >> presumably there was an earlier conversation with mr. freud as to the possibility of having this source and meeting. >> my memory is a came together quite quickly. i was on summer tour de around the country. off to georgia. them at the time of the invasion. it seemed like a possible to link up. we got together at the last minute. >> we know that rebecca wade was there. if you have a conversation n?fore the inde >> i do not remember. >> 2009 you have lunch with james murdoch. to you think it is possible that you discuss regulatory issues? was discussed. i am sure over the years i discussed some of those issues with james murdoch. we both have very strong issues and they're not the same. i am sure we would have had discussions about it. recall the specifics. this is a few months before late august 2009. think these would have been here. most of these are really about to promote conservative policies. the issues. i am sure we would have discussed them. >> one can see the intensity of his feeling. himself quite strongly. a bbc. did they do have an

opportunity. >> so presumably there was an earlier conversation or driving early conversations with mr. freudsome tour dates around the country. i got a call or a text from matthew cacao just about to go off to georgia to visit georgia at the time of the georgia invasion. and it just seemed like a possible opportunity to link up. but i seem to matter at all came together very quickly at the last minute but i might have got it wrong. >> we know that rebekah wade was there, but did you have a conversation with her about this before you flew out or not? >> i don't recall. >> in 2009, mr. cameron the third of may you had lunch with james murdoch, page 04225. do you think it's possible on that occasion that you discussed regulatory issues including ofcom and bbc? >> well, i don't i don't recall what was discussed correctly at the launch. i'm sure that over the years i've discussed some of those issues with james murdoch. he's got very strong views on them. i've got very strong views on the. they are not really the same views, and i'm sure we would have had discussions about it. perhaps particular