so we had our officers meeting with director ram, mr. frie, vice president wolfram and myself and environmental review officer sarah jones and this is exactly the subject. because on a broader spectrum that's that i felt and vice president wolfram has felt that this commission wants to meet product sponsor goals. we want to help them maximize their area. however wie -- we don't want to lose resources. specifically to commissioner pearlman, we keep seeing this either/or. oh, you are going to lose a whole tower if you have a preservation alternative. no. and i thought i explained this previously to this developer previously on a previous project. i don't care if it's a 5-foot set back, to me that's worth it. and seeing this where it's either we do two towers or we do one or we do one, wrong. we're happy to approve two towers, especially when i see retail spaces that would easily fit into the facade of oak street. the oak street one, i cannot believe we would lose that building. so i'm extremely frustrated. so we're going through and we're going

. >> mr. frie. >> i was just going to reiterate that the department will have a booth and if any commissioners would like to join us and see our schedule when we'll be there, happy to share that and forward that along to you. >> commissioner johnck. >> i just wanted to clarify with commissioner hyland that i was one of the parties that couldn't get in. i even went there thinking that you, know, somebody have been release a spot but no. so congratulations on a successful event. my understanding is that for those of us that signed up but were on the wait list that we will be getting some of the information and material. i think that's what they mentioned to me. >> that's correct, the powerpoints are available and it was recorded. >> thank you. >> commissioners, anybody else has a comment, we'll move on. >> commissioners item 6, election of officers. >> well, the names have -- the renominated commissioners have been submitted to the board of supervisors. the rules committee is meeting on the 12th at 1