>> always certainly defer to mr. frye. this language was drafted after our current practice was in place. we already conduct a lot of outreach to post cards, mailings, and community meetings, which some of you have intended. this acknowledges our current practice. supervisor weiner: it is not meant as a criticism of planning staff. they do a lot of work. it would have more formal survey of voting. you are methodically going through and figuring out where folks stand. if for whatever reason people are not being responsive and only 10% respond, and half are for, half are against -- that is information the board in the hpc can ignore if they choose to. president miguel: if a lot of times it comes up far short of the 50%, it is a guide to the department. maybe they are not doing the outreach properly. it takes the concept of trying to reach that goal of 50%. commissioner moore: with ownership of large tracts of posing -- of housing in single hands, it is hard to get 50% when 20% or 30% of the housing is owned by one particular