maybe mr. frye? >> the way the ordinance is written that any type of basic, general maintenance to remediate the problems would not require a c of a. major changes may still require a c of a. we would like your feedback on that and also would be interested in hearing from the community. tim? >> this was our attempt to appease both sides of the coin in that there is concern about the quality of the pavers and water remediation with the parking garage, so this takes it out of the equation to deal with the issues, so hopefully they can be dealt with as efficiently and economically as possible, but as ms. desiree smith said, any new built structures within the plaza or major alterations would not be covered by this exclusion. and so those would still require a certificate of appropriateness. >> commissioner pearlman: so you are saying essentially that if the fountain and all of the items were originally there and brought back, they would go through the full c of a process? >> yes. >> commissioner johns:

that's more of a comment, mr. frye, less of a question. i guess i'm just -- i wasn't here in 2009. it's very unfortunate that the sale of the tdr was so low and didn't actually assist them in the seismic update. i want to make sure that that will happen, but i'm not sure if we want that through the central soma plan. the $20 million -- the additional $20 million of tdr that will be sold, how can that be spent? is that limited to the buildings that are selling their tdrs? >> they're currently not allowed to sell their tdr. as you have noted, they're required to spend that money on their own rehabilitation. it will be a new funding source for the neighborhood. >> councillor tang: thank you so much. i know that many members of the public are here. and so i did want to move to public comment and then i do have many more questions so i do want to appreciate our department members to be here to answer additional questions and i'm sure that questions will come up from members of the community. and i also want to recognize that along with many of our community-based organizations and affor

. >> thank you, mr. frye. >> seeing no other reports, we can move on to general public comment at this time. members of the public may address members of the commission. except agenda items. with respect to agenda item, your opportunity to address the commission will be afforded went the item is reached in the meeting. each member of the public may address the commission for up to three minutes. i did have a couple of speaker cards. >> yeah. jerry dratler and georgia sciudice. >> i have some materials to hand out. >> place them there, please. >> oh, i'm sorry. good afternoon. my name is jerry dratler. i served on the civil grand jury and city commission. i was a member of the 2012 civil grand jury that wrote the report that was very critical of d.v.i. a friend suggested that i watch the segment of the december 14 planning commission meeting that focused on the bogus architectural plans prepared by mr. santos for 214 state street. my neighbours and i have the same bogus plan experience in 2016. when mr. santos

mr. starr, did you have a question? >> the apellants were not upheld -- >> the c.u.s were upheld. >> that's what i thought. >> thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. tim frye, department staff here to share with you a few items from yesterday's historic preservation commission hearing. on october 19, i shared with you the initiation of three local public schools. thee yore roosevelt, george washington high school and sunshine school, all three of those received a positive recommendation to be forwarded to the board of supervisors at yesterday's h.p.c.s hearing and those hearings will be scheduled some time in the new year. the commission did initiate one new designation at yesterday's hearing. if i could get the overhead, please. this is the phillips building located 246 first street. designed in 1930 by architects myers and clinichart. it is a rare art deco loft building in downtown san francisco and the property owners are initiatinging the local designation. the commission unanimously approved the initiation and that will be scheduled for a second hearing likely in january. that concludes my remarks unless you have any questions. thanks. >> thank you. c