mr. fugate talked about has been coming out of the sun or, yeah.[inaudible] >> you know, somebody got to make a call. and so the answer is that if somebody has got to make the call, does the statute have to say who has to make the call or is there plenty in the statute and all you need is some backbone, which you're guaranteed to have. on who should make the call. we got to make a judgment one way or the other. >> well, i would argue that the statute has provided the authority but i think madam chair you're exactly right. it all comes down to leadership at the top in the agency within it. it's going to stay in dhs within dhs. i think we're naive. [inaudible] >> i think we're just being naive if we don't look at it that way. therefore, the stafford statute maybe has to be made stronger to clearly say that the fema administrators are in charge. the other thing when we're -- just to go back to the recovery issue, if congress doesn't put somebody in charge of recovery, it's never going to be organized because the agencies during the 1990s we used -- br