mr. fugate talked of him coming of the son or, yeah, ohio. it's ohio like louisiana. they don't have the oil in ohio. somebody's got to make the call. and so my answer is, if somebody's got to make the call, does the statute have to say who should make the call? or is there playing in the statute of all you need is some backbone? what you're guaranteed to have, who should make the call. we got to make a judgment one way or the other. >> i would argue that the statute has -- provided the authority, but i think madam chair, you're exactly right. it all comes down to leadership at the top of. in the agency, and if it's going to stay in dhs, within dhs. i think we are naÏve to think that if we have a major catastrophe, dhs and secretary that polydor is not going to want to play a major role in that disaster i think we're just being naÏve if we don't look at it that way. therefore, the statute may be -- the stafford act has to be maybe made stronger to clearly say that the fema administrator is in charge and maybe it's pfo. the other thing, just to go back to the recovery