but i want to thank particularly mr. gale and chief davis for your excellent work over the years in law enforcement. and thank the chairman and substituting chairman for their tolerance and patience. >> i think you actually call me the chairman. it's protocol. >> you know, i think i need the advice -- i have a right to remain silent, don't i? >> yes, you do. >> unfortunately, i have an appointment, so i'm going to ask my questions and then you'll get the gavel and you'll be the chairman and get every due respect being called the chairman. >> thank you, senator blumenthal. >>> everyone here has talked about the importance of law enforcement officers and the communities that they serve. it seems everyone agrees racial profile can undermine trust in the authorities and can cause resentment us among the targeted groups. minnesota is home to a law comfort. in my sxries, reef lernt a few minutes sh come back from there. when i talked to director muller and maybe more importantly when i went back to the twin citys and talked to spec

but i want to thank particularly mr. gale and chief davis for your excellent work over the years in law enforcement. and thank the chairman and substituting chairman for their tolerance and patience. >> i think you actually call me the chairman. it's protocol. >> you know, i think i need the advice -- i have a right to remain silent, don't i? >> yes, you do. >> unfortunately, i have an appointment, so i'm going to ask my questions and then you'll get the gavel and you'll be the chairman and get every due respect being called the chairman. >> thank you, senator blumenthal. >>> everyone here has talked about the importance of law enforcement officers and the communities that they serve. it seems everyone agrees racial profile can undermine trust in the authorities and can cause resentment us among the targeted groups. minnesota is home to a law comfort. in my sxries, reef lernt a few minutes sh come back from there. when i talked to director muller and maybe more importantly when i went back to the twin citys and talked to spec

. >> mr. gale, if i may ask you to comment on the general principle that race or other similar characteristics alone are used for identifying or profiling individuals can be distracting or undermining credibility, and really should be used in combination, if anything, in combination with other, if at all, characteristics, mainly conduct, behavior and so forth, what would you think about that? s >> conduct is what drives it all. when you talk about -- and because, you know, i'm the commander of the training academy in my department and we're training officers all the time. one of the things we talk about is the stop and frisk, terry stop situations. it's driven by conduct. if you're going to properly teach that, you teach that it's driven by the conduct of the person and you're determining that their conduct indicates that they're involved in criminal activity. race has no place in that. i think the distractor now you would have criminals involved in criminal activity who will now use, you know, the

i guess what we're trying to highlight, in fact, complicated this issue is mr. gale, do you think you've ever been racially profiled? >> probably. >> yeah, i can't say i understand because i don't. i've never been in that situation. but the fact that you're a law enforcement officer and you probably, sometime in your life, have been viewed with suspicion by police makes your testimony pretty persuasive to me in the sense that you're now sitting in the role of a law enforcement official, trying to protect the community. and the zimmerman case is a private individual, not a law enforcement organization. and i just really -- i think i understand the problem. i just don't know where the line between good law enforcement and racial profiling ends and begins because let me tell you one thing about congress. we'll be the first one to jump on you when you're wrong. when you get a phone call that somebody looks suspicious in the neighborhood and you ask a bunch of questions, well, that doesn't seem to justify us going in and that person winds up killing somebody, or robbing o

mr. romero. frank gale served for 23 years in the denver county sheriff's department where he had responsibility for the courts and jail. captain gale is currently the commander of the training academy in the community relations unit and the public information officer. he has received numerous awards and declarations from the internal order of police and the sheriff's department. captain gale, it's an honor to have you here today. please proceed. >> thank you. my name is frank gale. i'm a 23-year veteran in the denver police department and currently hold the rank of captain. i am the national second vice president for the fraternal order of police, representing more than 330,000 rank and file law enforcement officers in every region of the country. i'm here to morning to discuss our strong opposition to end racial profiling act. i want to begin by saying that it is clear racism is morally and ethically wrong. and law enforcement is not only wrong but serves no valid purpose. it is wrong to think a person cr

but i want to thank mr. gale. i want to thank the chairman and substituting chairmen for their tolerance and patience. >> i think you called me chairman? [laughter] >> protocol. >> i have a right to remain silent. [laughter] >> i do have to have an appointment. i will ask my questions and you will get the gavel and you will be the chairmen. you will get every due respect. thank you. >> everyone has talked about the importance of cooperation between law enforcement officers and the communities they serve. it seems everyone agrees that racial profiling and undermined trust and the authorities and can cause resentment among targeted groups. minnesota is home to large population of somali-americans. in my experience, no community is more upset than the somali community when we learned that a few somali-americans had then -- had gone back to somalia and become involved with --. when i talked to the fbi and when i went back to the twin cities and talk to a special agent, both said that the somali community had been coop

mr. romero. frank gale served for 23 years in the denver county sheriff's department where he had responsibility for the courts and jail. captain gale is currently the commander of the training academy in the community relations unit and the public information officer. he has received numerous awards and declarations from the fraternal order of police and denver sheriff's department. captain gale, it's an honor to have you here today. please proceed. >> thank you. good morning, mr. chairman, and distinguished members of the senate subcommittee on constitution civil rights and human rights. my name is frank gale. i'm a 23-year veteran in the denver police department and currently hold the rank of captain. i am the national second vice president for the fraternal order of police, the largest law enforcement labor organization in the country, representing more than 330,000 rank and file law enforcement officers in every region of the country. i'm here this morning to discuss our strong opposition to end racial

. >> mr. galeif i could ask you to comment on the general principle that race or other similar characteristics alone used for identifying are profiling individuals can be either distracting or undermining the credibility, and really should be used in combination if anything combination with other, if at all, characteristics in the behavior and so forth would you think about that? >> the conduct is what drives it all. because i'm the commander of the training academy at my the department we are training officers of the time to read one of the things we talked about this it is all driven by conduct. if you are going to properly teach that, you teach that it's driven by the conduct of the person and you were determined that their conduct indicates that they are involved in criminal law activities. >> race had a place in that. the destructor is that now you would have criminals that are involved in the criminal activity who where now used in the racial profiling as a destructive as the complaint for ha

mr. romero. frank gale served for 23 years in the denver county sheriff's department where he had responsibility for the courts and jail. captain gale is currently the commander of the training academy in the community relations unit and the public information officer. he has received numerous awards and declarations from the internal order of police and the sheriff's department. captain gale, it's an honor to have you here today. please proceed. >> thank you. my name is frank gale. i'm a 23-year veteran in the denver police department and currently hold the rank of captain. i am the national second vice president for the fraternal order of police, representing more than 330,000 rank and file law enforcement officers in every region of the country. i'm here to morning to discuss our strong opposition to end racial profiling act. i want to begin by saying that it is clear racism is morally and ethically wrong. and law enforcement is not only wrong but serves no valid purpose. it is wrong to think a person cr