mr. gardner, in your opinion, robin, be helped? >> mr. gardner cannot be helped. we can do is help victims and help everybody that we don't know about that he's assaulted. >> katie, do you think he can be helped? >> no, i don't think he can be helped and i think he should be put away or get the death penalty, absolutely. i think there needs to be an effort for victims of this man that have not come forward and victims of garrido come forward. >> larry: there have to be other victims? >> i have come in contact with other victims who have not reported it with garrido. lear didn't take them prisoner? >> yeah, but they didn't report it and they wish they had. >> larry: judge mathis, you think he can be helped? >> i think we need a psychological -- a psychiatric analysis because i don't know whether it's incurable or to environmental. could be power and control which is what many rapists operate off of. not sure. >> larry: mark, you have a thought? >> well, until they are convicted, i generally like to reserve judgment. >> larry: he was convicted of a prior instance. >

mr. gardner and that's what led to his arrest. >> gardner could be linked to other sex assaults in southern california. the sheriff says the investigation is not over. the goal is still to bring chelsea back. a facebook page dedicated to finding her already has 24,000 fans. >>> now, to washington and the battle to health care reform. it seems more likely that democrats are now ready to move legislation forward, whether republicans want to come along or not. rachel martin has more from the white house. >> reporter: democrats the time for debate is over a republicans must either sign or step aside. >> time's up. yes. we really have to go forth because what's the point of talking that any longer? >> reporter: democrats are prepared to use a maneuver called reconciliation. and there are still some moderate democrats in the house who aren't on board. some say it's too expensive. others want tougher language to prevent federal funding on abortion. >> do you have the 217 votes necessary to pass that? >> rightow, we're working on the policy. >> reporter: and even if democrats get the votes, republi

mr. gardner given you any information? is he talking yet? >> we're talking to him.not been productive thus far. with his picture being publicized and out in the media is very helpful, we're getting a lot of tips. and hopefully, these tips will help us finding chelsea. >> it's been suggested he may be linked to the an assault at the same park, is that true? >> yeah, we had an assault at the same park. the description, we'll be showing a photograph to the victim in that assault. she is out of state, but that will be done in the near future. obviously, there's other cases in the area, over the last 18 months, we're leaving really no stone unturned. and trying to conduct the investigation with the ultimate goal of trying to get chelsea home. >> of course, the paramount concern is getting chelsea home safe and sound. kelly, were you aware of what had happened in that park? was chelsea aware of what had happened in that park a couple months ago? >> i'm sure i read it. it's one of those things where i thought, thank god, the person who was attacked were able to get away. y

mr. gardner guilty before a court does or before he pleads to this. what would you do with the sexual predator? never let them out? what's your answer? >> remember jessica luncsford's case? we demanded 25 to life sentences for first sexual offenses, particularly violent offenses against children. in fact, some form of that was passed in, i believe, 38 states. yet states like california and others fail to implement the full -- the full -- they fail to fully implement jessica's law. we see this kind of thing being repeated time and time again. you know as well as i do, larry, that california is on the verge of letting almost 30,000 offenders back out onto the streets because we can't provide them with adequate health care. how ironic is that in these times? >> larry: not heard of last of this. thanks marc, father of the late polly klaas. we'll have more on this tomorrow night, by the way. jerry brown is here. he was california governor before, and he wants the job again. he'll tell us why right after the break. all my business information is just a phon

gardner a very speedy recovery. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas. mr. poe: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. poe: thank you, mr. speaker. having spent 30 years at the courthouse in houston as a prosecutor and judge, all in the criminal courts building, i'm very familiar with the individuals who work in the white house to -- courthouse who protect those who come to the seat of justice to seek grievances against our government. and throughout those years it became obvious to me that the way in our country we settle disputes is at the courthouse. where we have two sides. sometimes more than two sides. show up to argue their case and there is a ruling by the judge on the law. but sometimes as in this case people show up at the courthouse and wish to take matters in their own hands in a violent manner. and we have folks at the courthouse who protect us as not just lawyers and judges but protect those people who come to the courthouse to have justice, to seek justice. and those people in o