mr. garnaut. that should not stop us thinking him for his work and respecting him in his professionalism in doing it. the leader of the opposition's question, he talked about the question of cost, mr. garnaut makes observations about costs. this one on page 77 of this report uses the terminology of direct action that the leader of the opposition would use to refer to his policy. i would refer to it as a policy in which polluters are subsidized. mr. garnaut states this -- using direct action to achieve similar amounts of emission reduction would raise costs -- the leader of the opposition -- [talking over each other] >> would raise costs much more than carbon prize but would not raise the revenue and reduce the cost in any observed [talking over each other] >> order! order! >> the opposition business on a point of order. >> the leader of the opposition's question cannot be more specific and quoted a sentence from the garnaut review and asked to continue to maintain only the biggest polluters would