mr. garner, it would be helpful so the public and the rate payers know it is more than these minuscule issues that have been raised by auditors, that there are also contravening rebuttals. would you agree, [speaker not understood]? >> yes. i just wanted to point out that in the early '97 or '98, actually i was responsible for bringing joc to department of public works. and when i came over to puc, i brought it to the puc. and the whole issue was to really help us do small projects instead of doing plans and specs and going out and advertising, joc was the vehicle that you can actually perform that. and, so, we've been working, trying to include more local businesses. we went out with the -- we spearheaded the micro joc where it's a micro set aside for small businesses. and we've looked at bonding issues on joc. so, we've done a lot to really make joc, you know, palatable to a lot of small businesses. and what miguel mentioned, we are very proud about that. i think the issue, you know, as far as the audit is concerned is actually pointing out some things that we acknowledge and there are some