mr. garner are viewed by police officers. that's the tragedy, not only the loss of mr. garner's life, but seeing all these public servants who are charged with helping. you're supposed to call the police when you're in trouble, and they all stand there as though mr. garner is not a person. i think new yorkers are just traumatized. and that neighborhood certainly is traumatized. >> thank you both very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, the democrats don't just have a good shot at winning a senate seat in georgia, their candidate, michelle nunn, whose father held that seat for 24 years for the democrats, is the front-runner tonight. just like her father used to be. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. but hurry, offers end july 31st. share your summer moments in your mercedes-benz with us. a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active

mr. garner are viewed by police officers. that's the tragedy, not only the loss of mr. g all these public servants who are charged with helping. you're supposed to call the police when you're in trouble, and they all stand there as though mr. garner is not a person. i think new yorkers are just traumatized. and that neighborhood certainly is traumatized. >> thank you both very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, the democrats don't just have a good shot at winning a senate seat in georgia, their candidate, michelle nun, whose father held that seat for 24 years for the democrats, is the front-runner tonight. just like her father used to be. there's a gap out there. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. at humana, we believe if healthcare changes, if frustration and paperwork decrease... the gap begins to close. so let's simplify things. let's close the gap between people and care. that's goohhh.o go right in your glove. see that? great job. ok, now let's get ready for the ball... here it comes... there you go... good catch. perfect! alr

mr. garner was killed.y were strip searched where their pants were pulled down to their angst and officer pantaleo engaged in a public strip search, touching their genitals and other private parts in public view. he then arrested them without any reason and falsified the basis for the arrest and ultimately the charges were dismissed. >> and $30,000 was paid out. and that was taxpayer money paid out. and there is also another lawsuit pending on this particular officer that they won't discuss because it is still going through the system. again, my question was you weren't surprised, then -- were you surprised that he was still on the force or that he was involved in another incident? >> unfortunately, sadly, i wasn't surprised because this is what we see day in and day out. >> okay. >> this is all i do. and in this type of situation where the officer did something that is not allowed, engaging in a public strip search, unfortunately the department doesn't respond to that. >> lou palumbo, before you respond to

mr. garner. just one last comment, lawrence. mr. garner is addressing the officers as officer.tacking them. he's showing them respect, and he's a guy who is reacting to be overpoliced. because he's being overpoliced. and he's upset about it. he's not intoxicated, not mentally defective, not striking at them. so i hope the commissioner will look at this and i believe he will. i think he's a first rate guy and maybe get some new policies in there. we need a lot more talk on the street to deescalate. we need sergeants to step in. we certainly don't need choke holds on citizens for the most extreme minor violations, or any violation for that matter. >> and the u.s. attorney for the jurisdiction over the staten island area is saying that they're closely following the nypd investigation developments. there's obvious potential for a civil rights violation in this arrest. and there have been some protests about this. tell us about those protests. >> yes, i was just at one myself yesterday. i mean, people in the community are gathering to really rally around the family and to say, look,

mr. garner.unfortunately the situation escalated and the police officer who applied the chokehold believed or in the moment, in the heat of the moment thought that that was the best way to take him into custody. again, not a good technique. >> jeffrey ian ross, thank you very much for being with us. we'll continue to follow this story as it makes its way through the news. >> my pleasure. >>> once again we're expecting thunderstorms to be developing this afternoon. some could be strong with highs in the mid-90s in many spots. we'll be tracking them throughout the afternoon. you can always follow interactive doppler with wusa9.com and download the free weather app as well. >> es that's it for us -- >>> that's it for us at noon. we're on 24/7 on mmm, progressive insurance here. ever since we launched snapshot, my life has been positively cray-cray. what's snapshot, you ask? only a revolutionary tool that can save you big-time. just plug it in, and the better you drive the more cash you'll stash. swi

mr. garner is not with us and not here to tell his side of the story. i want to play, more, though, from his widow remembering her husband. >> my husband was not a violent man. not in any way, shape, form, or fashion. he only yelled at me. he didn't yell at nobody else. and he was a quiet man, but he's making a lot of noise now. and i don't want no violence in his name. none whatsoever. because he wouldn't have stood behind no violence. >> powerful words there, michael, from isa garner, the widow. the fact that protest and pressure matters here, but people want it to be peaceful. you've been out there on the streets here in new york. what are you seeing? >> look, far too times we've been to the house of justice with reverend al and families who are grieving over their losts ones. as the mayor said today, we have to fight till the death of us that every new yorker, every american, every person who is being racially profiled in any city across this profile is respected and treated fairly. we've had 20 years in this city of a bad relationship between the p

mr. garner, if mr. mply complied, there wouldn't have been any form of contact, esesive or other. however the public wants to categorize it. don, there is a much bigger issue here. it has to do with the way we scrutinize these cops. the public doesn't live in the street with these kids. they don't deal with the underbelly. they don't deal with the psychological aftermath of doing the dirty work for everyone. >> i don't think people will deny, i think most people understand that police work is tough work. and that they face situations that you and i -- well, that i cannot imagine. >> or mr. klein. >> but everyone has scrutiny. i have scrutiny on my job. i'm sure tonight when i get off the air i will have three or four e-mails from somebody, a boss or more. i'm scrutinized on my job and many more from viewers. and so if -- if i am held to account, why aren't police officers held to account? >> i believe constructive criticism, i believe and attempt every day to refine yourself and make yourself better is k

mr. garner, that's part of the problem.he problem is discretion of police is employed differently when it comes to black and brown people than when it is applied to white americans and others. i think that's part of the difficulty. >> you have brought us to our want to go right after the break which is this notion that even the "new york times" weighed in and mr. deblasio was elected to address exactly this. in addition to the human consequences to this family. i'm bringing you back, michael, when we come back. don't wait for awesome... totino's pizza rolls... ...gets you there in just 60 seconds. >> it is too early to jump to any conclusions about this case. we must wait for all the facts and details of the incident to emerge. but i assure all new yorkers there will be a full and thorough investigation. >>> that was new york city mayor bill de blasio holding a press conference last friday the day after eric garner died. while the response in the aftermath of garner's death is swift and has not stopped call to the resignati

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mr. garner. but suspicious enough.frican-american or being a person of color makes you guilty of suspicion. and then the value of human life in cases such as these. what would have happened if anybody else had done this? this could affect anybody. this could have done anything to anybody. but eric garner did not deserve a death sentence for what he was alleged to have done. >> jim cavanaugh and mark thompson, thank you both for joining me. >>> coming up, how a liberal should answer charges of being a liberal. that's in the rewrite. (son) oh no... can you fix it, dad? yeah, i can fix that. (dad) i wanted a car that could handle anything. i fixed it! (dad) that's why i got a subaru legacy. (vo) symmetrical all-wheel drive plus 36 mpg. i gotta break more toys. (vo) introducing the all-new subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru. she tried to kill us. no, it's only 15 calories. with reddi wip, fruit never sounded more delicious, with 15 calories per serving and real cream, the sound of reddi wip is the sound of

mr. garner. but suspicious enough.ican-american or being a person of color makes you guilty of suspicion. and then the value of human life in cases such as these. what would have happened if anybody else had done this? this could affect anybody. this could have done anything to anybody. but eric garner did not deserve a death sentence for what he was alleged to have done. >> jim cavanaugh and mark thompson, thank you both for joining me. >>> coming up, how a liberal should answer charges of being a liberal. that's in the rewrite. [ female announcer ] there's a gap out there. th[ femalou deserve. at humana, we believe if healthcare changes, if it becomes simpler... if frustration and paperwork decrease... if grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home... the gap begins to close. so let's simplify things. let's close the gap between people and care. ♪ let's close the gap between people and care. you knowfine barbecue,merica? good times and zero heartburn. ♪ and that's why i take prilosec otc each morning for my

mr. garner's death it it said the perpetrator didn't appear to be in dris stress.he video -- the perpetrator's condition did not seem serious and did not appear to get worse. there's video of him being lifted lifeless. >> he was probably dead. talking about he didn't appear serious. he was probably dead or at the point of dying. i mean, so to me, it speaks to a lot here. at worse, it was reckless. at best it could have been murder or criminal negligence. all of which have to be looked at including by the federal government. when i speak at the funeral tonight, that's what i'm going to call for. >> there are people looking into the background of these officers including this officer daniel pen tell low who was seen using the choke hold. he was sued twice in the past two years for alleged civil rights violations. two men claim that he and other officers stop and strip searched them in broad daylight while they were driving. the officers allegedly handcuffed the men before pulling down their pants and searching them. that's according to the lawsuit. by the way, the su

mr. garner's medical condition may have been the cause of it and not the action of the officers, but equally we have to look at the officer's action. >> reporter: it is not just this case in this city. police actions are coming under scrutiny all around the country, shining a spotlight on the controversial practice of chokeholds. a technique that most big city police departments now ban. >> a chokehold can cause death. a chokehold can cause suffocation. it is a dangerous maneuver. >> reporter: this cell phone video captures a confrontation between the police and a virginia woman. petersburg police say that officers are trained to use the least amount of force. the woman was convicted of obstructing justice. and then there was this man in san francisco, already in cuffs, who appears to be held in a chokehold by this officer. police maintained it was not a chokehold but a carotid restraint, which is allowed. back in new york, this video also under scrutiny showing the police appearing to forcibly restrain a man suspected of entering a subway station without paying. while one officer handcuffs

mr. garner was selling what's called in new york city loosies, untaxed cigarettes at 75 cents apiece. >> jon: sure, that's how it starts. but the next thing you know, that guy's selling gum one stick at a time and pringles by the chip. [laughter] pringles singles or springles, as they're known on the street. well, we can at least hope eric garner's senseless death marks the end of excessive force by police. >> the new york city police department says up to 1,000 reports of suspects being placed in illegal chokeholds may now have to be reviewed. >> nypd officials say the entire force may have to be retrained. >> jon: okay, retraining lesson number one: this is a camera phone. when that is pointed at you, officer, stop strangling the person. [laughter] for more, we turn to senior... [cheering and applause] oh, okay. i'm sorry. i didn't know senior black correspondent, i didn't realize we were talking about racial issues. i thought this was going to be the senior police misconduct correspondent or... [laughing] >> jon, you're so funny acting like they're not related. not funny, jon. >> jon:

mr. garner doesn't want to do that because he's a democrat. [ laughter ] >> but it told me something abouthole electoral process is that they don't care what you do, think, or if they think you can win the election. and the reason they chose me for -- steve allen was the opposition. and i'd beaten him in the ratings. so therefore, i would have beat him in an election, you know. but that's the way they think. they don't care really what you think or do. and that's politics. >> my time with you is so tight and so limited. i didn't get a chance to talk about your love from race cars. i'm from indianapolis. >> are you? i was just there a couple of weeks ago. >> you know the 500 very well. let me close with this question. it's very clear with all due respect to this wonderful new project you have out "the notebook" and your wonderful work on "8 simple rules," you don't have to work every day. why are you still getting up and going to work every day? >> because my wife gets up and goes shopping. [ laughter ] >> i can't end on a better note. mrs. lois, you encouraged him to come and do this, so y

mr. garner's medical condition may have been the cause of it and not the action of the officers. >> reporter's infant daughter anguished and angry. >> they murdered him. they hurt him. they killed him, you know. >> new york police commissioner william bratten acknowledges the video appears to show a police officer applying a choke hold on garner, a move prohibited in the nypd. >> it is defined this would be a choke hold. >> reporter: now police and prosecutors work to find out why this arrest resulted in the suspect dying. new york city's mayor says he calls it troubling. he was supposed to leave for vacation but posedtpon it for one day and on staten island protests over the incident are planned led by the activist al sharpton all of this while police internal affairs investigators and prosecutors launch separate investigations into what exactly happened. >> the mayor trying to simmer tensions down. >> this is going to be tense for awhile. >> a lot of questions. >> thanks. >>> coming up on "gma" the most popular person on facebook, why so many fans are finding a lot to like. >> i was surpri

mr. garner in a choke hold. while down, he says, i can't breath, 11 times.lps him. even after paramedics show up, no medical treatment is administered. no care is shown to him. he is on the ground, motionless, as minutes tick by before he was funly brought to a hospital. when does a sense of humanity kick in. have we gotten so cold? last night demonstrators march through the streets of staten island, friends, family, and community members all coming together to demand change. and while the investigation goes on, tonight, we will celebrate his life. he was a father of six, and the grandfather of two. one of his sons was getting ready to go to college on a basketball scholarship. he recalled his dad beaming with pride that he would be the first person in the family to go to college. and garner's loss is being felt throughout the community. >> i knew he had my back. i felt safe with him. this is insane. >> a young man. not right. >> a big family. we come from a great background. a great background. a southern background and we were raised with respect. >> right

mr. garner's family in a meeting with federal prosecutors from the eastern district of new york.ible story. there are still people willing to do the right thing like ram are si ortiz. the young man who filmed the encounter with eric garner and the police. he stood with me at the funeral last night. >> this young man -- [ cheers and applause ] this young man showed more respect for the law, for human life, for decency than the police and ems workers. he turned around and said this is wrong. i will video it. this city ought to thank god that when the police and ems failed us, there was a ramsey o are rtiz that did the right thing. >> yes. this video that this young man did is the reason why there is a chance that this family may be able to get what others have been denied. let us remember the rodney king video in l.a. what it says to you and me is we can't be cynical. we've got to step up, do what's right and make it stick. that makes the country work. all police aren't bad. most of them are not bad. but when they are wrong, righteous citizens must step up and make the country work

mr. garner after he was placed in a choke hold. >>> a raging wildfire in washington burned about 300 homesdeath is blamed on the 400-square-mile fire. now back to "lockup." >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. ♪ >> last call. come on. >> at the louisville metro department of corrections jail, lunchtime means the cellophane-wrapped meals most everyone here calls szabos. >> the reason why we call them szabos is because years ago our vending company was called szabo and they made the sandwiches at that time. and we no longer use them, but the name stuck with the sandwiches. >> would you eat that szabo right now? >> no, i would not. >> why? >> why? well, for one thing inmates prepare it. >> inmates like brian walden. >> what you do is you lay five rolls, four pieces of bread with two pieces of mustard, two pieces of cheese, three cookies, and then you just wrap them up. a szabo wrap. i won't touch them. i mean, i've got to touch them, but i don't like to. >> but making szabos earns walden $3 a day, and he appreciates that. >> it comes in handy because like i'm indige

mr. garner was in trouble? what did you hear? the cuffs off of him, put oxygen mask on his face, do some type of cpr. everybody's concern was his breathing. >> could you hear him say those words now that have been chanted at the rallies for him, i can't breathe? >> yes. >> you heard him? >> yes. >> did you believe his life was in danger at that point? >> yes. >> if bystanders could hear him saying, i can't breathe, we can clearly hear it on the tape, in that moment, do police officers take into account the atmosphere, what they're hearing, or is it just the use of force applied in this situation? >> when you're in it, you're not in it. you're sometimes not hearing everything that's going on around you. your adrenaline rush, the focus, all those things come into factor. the idea is you're supposed to have training so you don't have those things impede your decision making skills. but they should be looking at him. so when you do see the tape, you see that they're putting him down on the floor. he's saying, i'm not breathing. you h

mr. garner's medical history? did he have an arrhythmia? did he have a heartbeat that beat too fast?so an issue with regard to the conduct of the emergency medical technicians and paramedics on the scene who, according to one report, did nothing for six or seven minutes, except feel the carotid artery to see if there was a pulse and he was breathing. a lot of questions. i'm sure it will go on for a long, long time in new york city and there will be a lot of controversy of the race card has already been played on this issue. >> it has been. >> although there is no proof at this point of any racial discrimination. >> i think your advice is good. we wait for the medical examiner, and then we'll see what happened. >> thank you very much. >> be well. >>> coming up, a mom uses her iphone to track her teenage daughter's every move. is that normal or is that nuts? dr. keith ablow is in charge of that department. he joins us. first on this date in 1980, "it's still rock'n'roll to me" by billy joel was the number one song in america. i think before he wrote "uptown girl." ♪ ♪ !hs. they're irre

garnered strong support in the transportation advocacy community, endorsed by the transit riders union, sierra club, walk sf and the san francisco bike coalition. i also want to thank my legislative mr. powers for his work on the measure and everyone else who had input into it. colleagues, i ask for your support. >> supervisor tang. >> thank you. i will just reiterate a couple comments i made in committee and really want to again, acknowledge supervisor wiener for all his work on public transportation in san francisco. i'm going to have to vote against this measure today, mostly because of the immediate -- next fiscal year $22 million hit to our general fund and we just finished our budget conversations here where we had many trade off conversations. i agree with the intent of this measure, i agree we need to put more money into our public transportation system, that we've severely been lacking and why we've as a board have signed on to support a general obligation fund as a measure for votes. rs. i'm concerned people will be confused this november and i want to work as hard as i can to make sure the general obligation bond is successful this november. i have the issue with the $22

garnered strong support in the transportation advocacy community, endorsed by the transit riders union, sierra club, walk sf and the san francisco bike coalition. i also want to thank my legislative mrwers for his work on the measure and everyone else who had input into it. colleagues, i ask for your support. >> supervisor tang. >> thank you. i will just reiterate a couple comments i made in committee and really want to again, acknowledge supervisor wiener for all his work on public transportation in san francisco. i'm going to have to

garner. >> if you were a man i would knock your block off. his quiet wit and likable personality almost always defined his roles. james baangartner was born in norman, oklahoma, he dropped the bau, mrast name when he became a contract act ever. his break came when he won the part of brett maverick in 1957. >> ohs, i wouldn't say that. >> unlike the characters john wayne and clint eastwood who were playing at the time quick to pull a gun and throw a punch, garner's maverick used his brains to get out of trouble. >> you don't look like the world's worst liar until you try telling the truth. >> that set the tone for much of garner's career. >> i'm not a guy you want to fool around with. >> in the '70s he struck television lightning twice as jim rockford grumpy private-- private detective who avoided fights. in the days when actors either worked in television or movies, garner managed to move effortlessly between the two. >> next stop, switzerland. >> in the great escape he called upon his real life experiences as a soldier in the korean war for which he had been awarded two purple hearts. his performance won wide acclaim. but playing the put pun, reluckant ant unlikely hero was his tr

mr. president. >> that was jack lemon, dan aykroyd, wilford brimley and sadly james garner.at clip as a tribute to garner who pass away in los angeles at the age of 86. a fitting clip to play in light of this topic. james garner, one of my favorite actors, "rockford files." >> that reality of hyper polarization, the reality of everything we've seen in the last six years, someone like hillary clinton who has to decide whether to run for president in 2016, do you think that's something that would give her pause, to look at that and say what could i actually do? i need the congress, too. >> it has to. if you look at anyone thinking about coming into the presidency, you have a few large scale accomplishments. even if you look at the obama presidency, when he first came into office, there were the kind of checklists of things he was able to get done. now six years in, five years in, obviously we're not moving through that list as quickly. anyone who would come into the president, whether that be president hillary clinton, president elizabeth warren, president bernie sanders, pres

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mr. president, i say clearly america we stand for something. now as we have time and time again, we must garner our resources. and most importantly, our compassion and the truth of who we say we are, and make sure we take care of these vulnerable children and make sure we don't turn them around into a dangerous situation. it is time that we show internationally that when there is crisis, america stands up and shows leadership and does the right thing. with that, i yield the floor to my senior senator from new jersey. mr. menendez: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from new jersey. mr. menendez: first of all, let me say i'm really moved by senator booker's passion, senator nelson's clarity of thought and my colleagues who have joined here. and i'm compelled to join them because we do have a crisis, but we also have, from my mind, a clear moral and legal compass that we need to follow. we have a refugee crisis on our southern border which i would argue requires an emergency response domestically and the urgent recalibration of our foreign policy. why do i say that? because as i ha

garnered 27% of the hispanic vote. that's really not disputed. so he dropped 4% from the 31% of john mccain, the open borders john mccain, to 27% for mitt romney. and what happened, mr. speaker? we ended up with an autopsy report that said that somehow it was a calamity of, a freefall, a loss of a big chunk of the hispanic vote because mitt romney had said a couple of words that seemingly, allegedly had offended people. those two words being self-deport. now, if the language is so sensitive that you can't use a term like self-deport without losing the presidency, how in the world, mr. speaker, are we going to enforce the law? how are we going to reinforce the respect the for the rule of law if we can't in a delicate way say, you know ferks if we really do enforce a law, a lot of people will decide that they can't -- they don't have a legal presence here and they might decide they're happier if they'd wake up in their home country. somehow that's offensive to people? instead i would say, there's been a loss in the hispanic vote, certainly. not from 44% for george w. bush, pu from say 39% down to john mccain. that's an 8% loss. only a 4% drop from that down to mitt ro

they could not garner a single vote on the united states supreme court for that particular violation of the separation of powers. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> most interesting gentlemen -- >> chairman, just as a matter of courtesy, we might inquire of our witnesses in light of the fact that we have a long ways to go. we've been here now coming up on an hour and 40 minutes and i used to take recesses for a few minutes. sometimes there are requirements. i do have a matter that would not cause us to lose time by allowing our witnesses to have five minutes if they would need or like to go to the rest room. >> i appreciate, in fact, the gentleman helping me out, because i view it as help. so i would ask the panel, would any of you like to take a five-minute break? there's no pressure here. how about in ten minutes when mrs. slaughter finishes, then we will take a five-minute break -- all i'm suggesting is -- >> i was really trying to help. >> i think you are. so i'm going to accept the help. so the chairman will decide this issue. that is, when mrs. slaughter finishes her questioning, it will come back to me and we wi

they could not garner a single vote on the united states supreme court for that particular violation of the separation of powers. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> most interesting gentlemen -- >> chairman, just as a matter of courtesy, we might inquire of our witnesses in light of the fact that we have a long ways to go. we've been here now coming up on an hour and 40 minutes and i used to take recesses for a few minutes. sometimes there are requirements. i do have a matter that would not cause us to lose time by allowing our witnesses to have five minutes if they would need or like to go to the rest room. >> i appreciate, in fact, the gentleman helping me out, because i view it as help. so i would ask the panel, would any of you like to take a five-minute break? there's no pressure here. how about in ten minutes when mrs. slaughter finishes, then we will take a five-minute break -- all i'm suggesting is -- >> i was really trying to help. >> i think you are. so i'm going to accept the help. so the chairman will decide this issue. that is, when mrs. slaughter finishes her questioning, it will come back to me and we wi

they could not garner a single vote on the united states supreme court for that particular violation of the separation of powers. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i yield back. >> most interesting gentlemen -- >> chairman, just as a matter of courtesy, we might inquire of our witnesses in light of the fact that we have a long ways to go. we've been here now coming up on an hour and 40 minutes and i used to take recesses for a few minutes. sometimes there are requirements. i do have a matter that would not cause us to lose time by allowing our witnesses to have five minutes if they would need or like to go to the rest room. >> i appreciate, in fact, the gentleman helping me out, because i view it as help. so i would ask the panel, would any of you like to take a five-minute break? there's no pressure here. how about in ten minutes when mrs. slaughter finishes, then we will take a five-minute break -- all i'm suggesting is -- >> i was really trying to help. >> i think you are. so i'm going to accept the help. so the chairman will decide this issue. that is, when mrs. slaughter finishes her questioning, it will come back to me and we wi