mr. gascon. and also david greenburg, do you agree with his assessment that prop 47 is not a get out of jail free card? >> so i'll address the first part. on the 22% recidivism, that is solely on the individuals that have had a petition to reduce their sentence granted. and it's not even one year. we're closing in on a year. whenever you do studies like the other person on the panel said, you need a longer-term period of time. most of the time when you do a recidivism study you're looking for a three-year period of time. i can be corrected if i'm wrong. it's usually a three-year period of time on those recidivism rates. so i would say right now what we're looking at is not a good thing, that that many people on that small population -- we're not talking the general population, we're talking that small group of individuals. and then in terms of the get out of free jail card, there's two things to that. many of the theft offenses now are 180-day maximum jail sentence. so someone that could have gon