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they are hoping the contempt for mr. gates by one juror will rise to the day. >> shepard: you said there wasn't much the defense could do. they could have put manafort on the stand not that they should have but they could have. >> they absolutely could have. that would have been a huge hole for the prosecutor to walk through. defendants don't usually testify at trials. certainly not when faced when this kind of documentary evidence. i think putting mr. manafort on the stand would have been a tragedy. the only thing can you do as a defense lawyer is keep the prosecution to their burden beyond a reasonable doubt, point at mr. gates a lot and hope it works. >> shepard: what is the point of no return for paul manafort as it relates to turning states' evidence and mitigating any damages here? >> yeah, that's a good question. and that time frame is short. after, if there is a guilty verdict, there will be pre-sentence report, which the report given to the judge to consider before sentencing. now, normally, sentencing might be pushed
they are hoping the contempt for mr. gates by one juror will rise to the day. >> shepard: you said there wasn't much the defense could do. they could have put manafort on the stand not that they should have but they could have. >> they absolutely could have. that would have been a huge hole for the prosecutor to walk through. defendants don't usually testify at trials. certainly not when faced when this kind of documentary evidence. i think putting mr. manafort on the stand would...
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of course, like mr. gates and mr.itted underlying crimes, they have a separate problem. >> just like mike flynn, too, right? >> that's exactly right. >> frank, chuck, thank you both so much for spending some time with us. >>> stul ahead tonight, democrats are trying to pull off something that has not been done since the 19 80s, and may nay just do it. stay with us. we'll be right back. is this at&t innovations? yeah, wow..this must be for one of our new unlimited wireless plans. it comes with a ton of entertainment options. great, can you sign for this? yeah. hey, uh.. what's in that one? that's a shark. new and only with at&t, you can get unlimited data, 30+ channels of live tv, and your choice of things like hbo or amazon music. more for your thing. that's our thing. visit att dot com. these are the specialists we're proud to call our own. experts from all over the world, working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. expert medicine works here. learn more at cancercenter.com when you bundle you
of course, like mr. gates and mr.itted underlying crimes, they have a separate problem. >> just like mike flynn, too, right? >> that's exactly right. >> frank, chuck, thank you both so much for spending some time with us. >>> stul ahead tonight, democrats are trying to pull off something that has not been done since the 19 80s, and may nay just do it. stay with us. we'll be right back. is this at&t innovations? yeah, wow..this must be for one of our new unlimited...
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even without any testimony by mr. gatesseen so far including the bookkeeper is very, very damaging. mike: do you anticipate paul manafort will take the stand? >> again, i'm not his lawyer. but probably not. because that would open up opportunities obviously for the prosecution to cross-examine him. and elicit damaging information. my prediction is he would not testify. >> what do you make of the pace of this trial so far with prosecutors calling dozens of witnesses to the stand since 2ue tuesday. >> it's not called rocket docket for nothing. he's an excellent judge, he's properly sceptical of government's presentation that in many cases has been overwrought. all the testimony about silk suits and ostrich jackets. we understand why they are doing that. but the government has spent a bit too much time doing that. and the judge chastised them. i see this trial being wrapped up pretty quickly. mike: thanks for your time in sharing your analysis. arthel: the taliban claiming it's behind another deadly suicide bombing in afghanis
even without any testimony by mr. gatesseen so far including the bookkeeper is very, very damaging. mike: do you anticipate paul manafort will take the stand? >> again, i'm not his lawyer. but probably not. because that would open up opportunities obviously for the prosecution to cross-examine him. and elicit damaging information. my prediction is he would not testify. >> what do you make of the pace of this trial so far with prosecutors calling dozens of witnesses to the stand...
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typically what defense lawyers do is cross examination mr. gates on this. that may give us a window into the broader mueller investigation. all of the crimes that they may have rick gates and others on, those are benefits he got by pleading guilty. >> interesting. how long would you expect such a critical witness -- i know it's called the rocket docket and this judge is very fast. >> yeah. >> but just for our viewers who are trying to get an idea, we obviously don't have cameras in the courtroom. >> well, it may be over this afternoon. no, i kid. no, it is the rocket docket. in an average trial someone like this would be on two, three days, maybe even longer. in this case i suspect the judge to keep the witness's testimony tailored to the most important points. my bet is a day or so. and then with defense counsel, the judge will give them a lot of latitude to cross examine because this is really the big moment for the defense. if they can't put this whole thing on rick gates, which will be a challenge, they have to walk out feeling pretty good at that point,
typically what defense lawyers do is cross examination mr. gates on this. that may give us a window into the broader mueller investigation. all of the crimes that they may have rick gates and others on, those are benefits he got by pleading guilty. >> interesting. how long would you expect such a critical witness -- i know it's called the rocket docket and this judge is very fast. >> yeah. >> but just for our viewers who are trying to get an idea, we obviously don't have...
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mr gates, the right—hand man of donald trump's former campaign chairman, now a star witness in a trial the prosecutor whether he committed crimes with mr manafort, he responded, yes. he said he'd been directed by his former boss to lower his tax liability by reporting overseas income as loans. he said he provided false and doctored documents to banks and failed to declare mr manafort‘s foreign bank accou nts declare mr manafort‘s foreign bank a ccou nts to declare mr manafort‘s foreign bank accounts to the us tax authorities. he also admitted stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from mr ma nafort of thousands of dollars from mr manafort by filing false and inflated expense reports. paul ma nafort inflated expense reports. paul manafort has pleaded not guilty to 18 charges, which were brought as a result of the special counsel robert mueller‘s investigation into any of mr trump's mueller‘s investigation into any of mrtrump‘s aids mueller‘s investigation into any of mr trump's aids colluded with russia to help elect him as us president. the charge is not connected with mr ma nafort‘
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gates. were you involved in any criminal activity with mr. manafort. gates replies, yes. >> did you commit any crimes with mr. manafort and gates answers clearly, yes. that is what a direct confession sounds like. it is very unusual to have a senior campaign aide confessing to crimes committed allegedly with the campaign chair in open court, right here, year two of a relatively young presidency. gates served in trump's campaign and originally charged as a c co-conspirator. this is important and goes to why they might attack what looks like bombshell direct evidence against him today. new charges could be brought if gates violates that agreement, if he lies today. it was made clear in an exchange between gates and one of mueller's prosecutors. now, we can go beyond the words, the transcripts we read, there was drama captured only by reporters in the room because no cameras are allowed in federal court. paul manafort was seated, as he sits there awaiting his feat in this trial he sits near rick gates and stared him down as gates made this bombshell allega
gates. were you involved in any criminal activity with mr. manafort. gates replies, yes. >> did you commit any crimes with mr. manafort and gates answers clearly, yes. that is what a direct confession sounds like. it is very unusual to have a senior campaign aide confessing to crimes committed allegedly with the campaign chair in open court, right here, year two of a relatively young presidency. gates served in trump's campaign and originally charged as a c co-conspirator. this is...
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we're not asking you to trust each and every word mr. gates said.g him to like i am. consider his testimony and verify it against the testimony of other witnesses see if it is consistent. but the defense team which never offered any witnesses or evidence of their own argues that he came in here, mr. gates, trying to look all clean-shaven, a real decent person you could rely upon. when the direct on was done he fell apart out of the box and showed himself to be liar that he is. the defense team i saw a few minutes ago, they're huddling off-site, outside of the courtroom, because again, they just have to wait like everybody else. for a verdict. trish? trish: peter doocy, thank you very much we're waiting. the dow is up triple digits, very nice gains as we're near the highs of the session. 425, 423 actually at this moment. china, and the u.s. are resuming trade talks so that's pretty good news for our market, how important is it to our national security that the president really get something done here? i will ask michael pillsbury, the man responsible
we're not asking you to trust each and every word mr. gates said.g him to like i am. consider his testimony and verify it against the testimony of other witnesses see if it is consistent. but the defense team which never offered any witnesses or evidence of their own argues that he came in here, mr. gates, trying to look all clean-shaven, a real decent person you could rely upon. when the direct on was done he fell apart out of the box and showed himself to be liar that he is. the defense team...
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and the accountant made it clear that, well, mr. gates was mr. manafort right-hand man.or followed up with, well who was in charge? the testimony was, oh, mr. manafort was in charge. so, the whole let's try to put it on gates it probably not going to fly with the jury. and i think that the two biggest things that we have coming up, they both relate to gates' testimony. because if he testifies, one, we're going to see a little bit of a donnybrook with the defense attorneys really trying to beat him up as a liar. and as somebody who has this incredible motive to fabricate against mr. manafort. because he got relatively speaking a very generous plea offer. but then i think the second and even more important consequence of gates' testimony, for the president is we may learn a whole lot of things that we've never heard before. because the defense attorneys will have every statement that gates ever made to mueller's prosecution team. and, therefore, there are topics that they could cross examine him on that we have not been made privy to so this could be a very big week. >> ka
and the accountant made it clear that, well, mr. gates was mr. manafort right-hand man.or followed up with, well who was in charge? the testimony was, oh, mr. manafort was in charge. so, the whole let's try to put it on gates it probably not going to fly with the jury. and i think that the two biggest things that we have coming up, they both relate to gates' testimony. because if he testifies, one, we're going to see a little bit of a donnybrook with the defense attorneys really trying to beat...
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there is some evidence that doesn't rely on mr. gateshat also points that manafort was committing crimes. that's what they're going have to focus on explaining away. but in the meantime, take down gates is job one for the defense. >> jennifer, to talk about some of the other evidence, you already had the accountant testifying that gates instructed her to do things which were illegal, and that she went along with it. >> that's right. and, you know, the prosecutors were careful to draw out from all of those witnesses that it wasn't just gates, it was manafort too. so they would ask them who did you communicate with, who gave you these orders? did you check with manafort, even fit was gates who gave you the order in the first place. and we heard time and time again that, yes, manafort was involved. he was on top of all of these transactions, even if it was rick gates kind of giving the initial orders. that was all part of this corroboration that the prosecutors are laying the groundwork for so they can tell the jury, listen, you heard from
there is some evidence that doesn't rely on mr. gateshat also points that manafort was committing crimes. that's what they're going have to focus on explaining away. but in the meantime, take down gates is job one for the defense. >> jennifer, to talk about some of the other evidence, you already had the accountant testifying that gates instructed her to do things which were illegal, and that she went along with it. >> that's right. and, you know, the prosecutors were careful to...
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mr. manafort. gates replied, yes. from there, gates went into remarkable detail about the alleged crimes and the people involved and a key road leads back to moscow. according to gates, manafort knowingly failed to report 15 foreign bank accounts and one of those was tied to a man named konstantin kilimnik, a man prosecutors say has direct ties to russian intelligence. he was the middle man between manafort himself and russian billionaire oleg deripaska. offered private briefings to trump to during the campaign. a putin insider so in the center of this he's now sanctioned by the u.s. treasury department. gates told the jury that manafort directed him to lie. and money wired to his bank account as loans rather than income. cut manafort's taxable income that left him with a whole lot of unreported money that he could use things to fund like that $15,000 ostrich jacket, a $130,000 mercedes, landscaping, millions on suits and even a cake yol karaoke setup. this is the pair that was so central to president trump's election
mr. manafort. gates replied, yes. from there, gates went into remarkable detail about the alleged crimes and the people involved and a key road leads back to moscow. according to gates, manafort knowingly failed to report 15 foreign bank accounts and one of those was tied to a man named konstantin kilimnik, a man prosecutors say has direct ties to russian intelligence. he was the middle man between manafort himself and russian billionaire oleg deripaska. offered private briefings to trump to...
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we know that mr. gates lies and we know he made such a swee sweetheart deal with the government that he would get probation in exchange for his testimony. it's common for andrew wiseman and others on the task force like this as i wrote about in my book "license to lie" to give sweetheart deals to the real actual criminals, at the same time they squeeze them to go after criminals that didn't commit a crime at all. it's up to the jury here to closely evaluate the evidence and to remember that as jurors they can do justice. the jury is a product of the kos teutiocontusion an an individual jurors acting alone if they maintain a not guilty position on every count can keep an unjust conviction from happening. lou: that's a possibility, among as we know many. the gates -- whether he's testifying about embezzlement, testifying and affirming that he lied, it is difficult to see how the jury would not be influenced by the so-called star witness who lies, who has admitted embezzlement and breaking laws. >> yes. there
we know that mr. gates lies and we know he made such a swee sweetheart deal with the government that he would get probation in exchange for his testimony. it's common for andrew wiseman and others on the task force like this as i wrote about in my book "license to lie" to give sweetheart deals to the real actual criminals, at the same time they squeeze them to go after criminals that didn't commit a crime at all. it's up to the jury here to closely evaluate the evidence and to...
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like mr. gates and mr.t, if they've committed underlying problems, they have a separate problem. judge just like mike flynn. >> that's exactly right. thank you for spending some time with us. still ahead, democrats are trying on pull off something that hand been done since the 1980s and they may just do it. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ooh, heaven is a place on earth ♪ uhp. i didn't believe it. again. ♪ ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth? ♪ i want to believe it. [ claps hands ] ♪ ooh i'm not hearing the confidence. okay, hold the name your price tool. power of options based on your budget! and! ♪ we'll make heaven a place on earth ♪ yeah! oh, my angels! ♪ ooh, heaven is a place on earth ♪ [ sobs quietly ] ♪now i'm gonna tell my momma♪ ♪that i'm a traveller ♪i'm gonna follow the sun♪ ♪now i'm gonna tell my momma ♪that i'm a traveller transitions™ light under control™ >>> ohio doesn't usually hold elections in august but it is a special election. the seat sits in a reliably republican district.
like mr. gates and mr.t, if they've committed underlying problems, they have a separate problem. judge just like mike flynn. >> that's exactly right. thank you for spending some time with us. still ahead, democrats are trying on pull off something that hand been done since the 1980s and they may just do it. stay with us. we'll be right back. ♪ ooh, heaven is a place on earth ♪ uhp. i didn't believe it. again. ♪ ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth? ♪ i want to believe it. [...
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manafort was actually victimized by mr. gates and it was actually mr. rrible things and mr. manaforts didn't know anything about it. that's going to be, i think, a tough sell to the jury since gates may have been the quarterback, but mr. manafort was jerry jones. he was the owner. >> thank you so much for coming in. good to have you. >> thank you. >>> they were the picture perfect family a doting wife, two little girls a third child on the way, a baby boy, until a shocking crime. the mystery surrounding a husband now accused of murdering his entire family. ♪ ♪ ♪ i put a spell on you ♪ yeah, because you're mine ♪ with chase atms serena can now grab cash on the go, all with the tap of her phone. ♪ stop the things you do no card? no problem. life, lived serena's way. chase, make more of what's yours. sharper vision, without limits. days that go from sun up to sun down. a whole world in all its beauty. three innovative technologies for our ultimate in vision, clarity, and protection. together in a single lens. essilor ultimate lens package. purchase the essi
manafort was actually victimized by mr. gates and it was actually mr. rrible things and mr. manaforts didn't know anything about it. that's going to be, i think, a tough sell to the jury since gates may have been the quarterback, but mr. manafort was jerry jones. he was the owner. >> thank you so much for coming in. good to have you. >> thank you. >>> they were the picture perfect family a doting wife, two little girls a third child on the way, a baby boy, until a shocking...
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the judge was getting frustrated and wanted them to move the documents in through mr. gates.cutor does not want to wait to put in evidence. you never know what's going to happen during a trial. no, your honor, let's let this witness move documents then they are in evidence and you can do what you want with them. it may have been more games manship and to try to throw the defense off saying this is all mr. gates is doing. >> the other development, just ran through fancy ostrich jacket, watch, clothes, apparently the prosecution wanted to show these photos of these lavish items to the jurors and the judge said no. the judge said specifically plp manafort is not on trial for having a lavish lifestyle. why would the judge make that call. >> first the prosecutors are trying to paint the details, get out their story. they wanted to get out onthe narrative this guy was funding his lifestyle with money he didn't declare income taxes for. they wanted to show the jurors this isn't a little amount of money, serious amounts to buy big things, fancy clothes, clothes that most people on th
the judge was getting frustrated and wanted them to move the documents in through mr. gates.cutor does not want to wait to put in evidence. you never know what's going to happen during a trial. no, your honor, let's let this witness move documents then they are in evidence and you can do what you want with them. it may have been more games manship and to try to throw the defense off saying this is all mr. gates is doing. >> the other development, just ran through fancy ostrich jacket,...
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for example, mr. gates, you knew how to hide things from mr. manafort, didn't you? and he's going to be stuck with that answer because it's the perfect cross exam question is he has no choice but to admit. it's got to be stuff like that. it can't just be generalities. >> right. greg, what would you do on the cross? >> i agree with shan. if the prosecution does its job, there will be nothing left for the jury to be surprised by. nothing that the jury hasn't heard in terms of negative information about rick gates, his crimes and past lying, so i think what the defense is left with is nothing more than reiterating and getting mr. gates to repeat over and over that he lied repeatedly, and in closing arguments, trying to emphasize to the jury that this is san admitted liar, that you -- this is an admitted liar, that you cannot believe him. if the prosecution does its job, and this is prosecution 101, the jury will not be surprised by anything they hear during the cross-examination. >> thank you all very much. shan, greg, jessica, an explosive day ahead. that's to say the
for example, mr. gates, you knew how to hide things from mr. manafort, didn't you? and he's going to be stuck with that answer because it's the perfect cross exam question is he has no choice but to admit. it's got to be stuff like that. it can't just be generalities. >> right. greg, what would you do on the cross? >> i agree with shan. if the prosecution does its job, there will be nothing left for the jury to be surprised by. nothing that the jury hasn't heard in terms of negative...
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during closing statements tomorrow, and do you make it all about the star witnessed who flipped, mr. gates? >> well, they certainly opened on that. >> counselor, let's go out to you in los angeles. i get the idea of not putting manafort on in his own defense because then of course the prosecution gets to come at him, and he's got all kinds of vulnerable exposures that could erase the work they did during the trial. what is the defense strategy likely to be during closing statements tomorrow, and do you make it all about the star witnessed who flipped, mr. gates? >> well, they certainly opened on that. they said that during opening that rick gates, the cooperating witness and the long time associate of paul manafort, that he was a liar and was in fact the primary architect of the fraud schemes. that is what they opened on and certainly tried to establish over cross-examination of gates. i think as what kevin said outside the courthouse today really what they're trying to do over closing arguments is really try to pick apart the government's case. symptomsatically going through each and ever
during closing statements tomorrow, and do you make it all about the star witnessed who flipped, mr. gates? >> well, they certainly opened on that. >> counselor, let's go out to you in los angeles. i get the idea of not putting manafort on in his own defense because then of course the prosecution gets to come at him, and he's got all kinds of vulnerable exposures that could erase the work they did during the trial. what is the defense strategy likely to be during closing statements...
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and mr. gates was asked about a meeting in july of 2014, a time when he and mr. ked to the fbi. one of the main take-aways from that testimony is that it was gates now testifying at the end of his cross that mr. manafort told him to be open and truthful with the fbi in discussing the various overseas offshore bank accounts that are at the very root of this entire case. as you know, poppy, it has been a tough few hours on the stand for mr. gates because, at the end of the day, not only did he have to admit and talk about crimes that he said he committed with manafort, but they also really got into his character and brought out all of the questions about lies, as well as even cheating on his wife. certainly embarrassing and very difficult to talk about in court. >> joe johns, appreciate the update. keep us posted on what else comes out of that redirect. again, this is the prosecution's star witness. jennifer rogers, our legal analyst is with me now. jennifer, it's been quite a few days. three doays now, and counting, f rick gates' testimony here. talk about all we'v
and mr. gates was asked about a meeting in july of 2014, a time when he and mr. ked to the fbi. one of the main take-aways from that testimony is that it was gates now testifying at the end of his cross that mr. manafort told him to be open and truthful with the fbi in discussing the various overseas offshore bank accounts that are at the very root of this entire case. as you know, poppy, it has been a tough few hours on the stand for mr. gates because, at the end of the day, not only did he...
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mr. gate's testimony or statements at face value. we're not asking you to trust each and every word mr. id. we're not asking to you like him either. we're asking to you consider his testimony, verify it, test it against the testimony of other witnesses and see if it is consistent. the jury is deliberating today in a break room because they thought that the jury room was too small. even though court has been ending for the day around 5:30 p.m. eastern, the jury is allowed to stay as long as they want. as soon as they have a unanimous verdict on 18 charges it will be read in open court, no matter what time it is. and the judge told them while they're deliberating it is really important they just consider the evidence and the arguments. that they ignore some of the salty comments that he had throughout the last 2 1/2 weeks about the mueller team's approach. david? david: we're on it. the moment they reach a verdict we will bring it to you live. peter, thank you very much. ♪ respect what it means to me. ♪ melissa: shows seven letters, aretha franklin made her mark in music history. the legen
mr. gate's testimony or statements at face value. we're not asking you to trust each and every word mr. id. we're not asking to you like him either. we're asking to you consider his testimony, verify it, test it against the testimony of other witnesses and see if it is consistent. the jury is deliberating today in a break room because they thought that the jury room was too small. even though court has been ending for the day around 5:30 p.m. eastern, the jury is allowed to stay as long as they...
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they've corroborated mr. gates, the main cooperator. there's documents that really demonstrate the fraud. i think in the end the government is going to be fine. this is what i worry about when the judge berates counsel, either side, in front of a jury. >> what's your biggest takeaway so far? >> i think it's going well for the government. as i said just a moment ago, it's a compelling case. it's a document case. the documents cooperate mr. gates, the main cooperator. it seems to me that the government's going to be fine. now, remember, the government needs 12 unanimous jury to convict. a defendant needs a 12 unanimous jury to acquit. it's always possible the defense will appeal to one juror, that there's a holdout that could result in a mistrial. but i expect convictions in this case. >> well, we'll soon find out, won't we, chuck? thank you so much. i appreciate it. now we have to take a turn to the battle over immigration. late thursday, a federal judge blasting the trump administration for deporting a mother and child who are plaintiff
they've corroborated mr. gates, the main cooperator. there's documents that really demonstrate the fraud. i think in the end the government is going to be fine. this is what i worry about when the judge berates counsel, either side, in front of a jury. >> what's your biggest takeaway so far? >> i think it's going well for the government. as i said just a moment ago, it's a compelling case. it's a document case. the documents cooperate mr. gates, the main cooperator. it seems to me...
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he painted gates as the real crook, adding, "this is somebody mr. manafort trusted. what a big mistake that was." but prosecutors claim gates acted on manafort's orders, saying that when manafort hired gates, "he didn't pick a boy scout." and they insist their case is not built on gates' testimony alone. telling jurors, "the star witness in this case is the documents." >> and pierre thomas with us live tonight, as well, from the courthouse there in alexandria. and pierre, this case soon in the hands of the jury. >> reporter: david, that's right. the judge just finished giving the jury final instructions. they'll start deliberating first thing in the morning. six men and six women deciding manafort's fate with washington and the nation watching. david? >> pierre thomas with the picture from inside that courtroom today. pierre, thank you. >>> we're going to turn now to breaking news from cape cod at this hour. a shark attack late today, a swimmer bitten on the leg, rushed to the hospital. swimmers rushed out of the water, right there in massachusetts. in fact, several s
he painted gates as the real crook, adding, "this is somebody mr. manafort trusted. what a big mistake that was." but prosecutors claim gates acted on manafort's orders, saying that when manafort hired gates, "he didn't pick a boy scout." and they insist their case is not built on gates' testimony alone. telling jurors, "the star witness in this case is the documents." >> and pierre thomas with us live tonight, as well, from the courthouse there in...
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gates is considered a star witness in the case after he pleaded guilty in february and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors. mr guilty on 18 counts. 0ur north america correspondent, peter bowes, has more from los angeles. this was arguably one of the most crucial days of this trial because rick gates was, for a decade, his right—hand man, his business associate. working closely with him on the election campaign during 2016 and of course, these charges were to their work outside of that campaign, largely predating the election campaign of donald trump and the whole thing has come to light because of the investigation into possible collusion with russia over the election of donald trump and whether any of his aides worked with the russians during that campaign that the serious charges of tax fraud, hiding income from overseas, are very important for paul manafort because if found guilty, he could go to jailfor the rest of his life. rick gates appearing as the star witness today being asked directly by the prosecutor whether he committed crimes, for paul manafort, and the answer was yes, he was involved in hiding
gates is considered a star witness in the case after he pleaded guilty in february and agreed to cooperate with prosecutors. mr guilty on 18 counts. 0ur north america correspondent, peter bowes, has more from los angeles. this was arguably one of the most crucial days of this trial because rick gates was, for a decade, his right—hand man, his business associate. working closely with him on the election campaign during 2016 and of course, these charges were to their work outside of that...
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ellis iii interjected and said well, mr. gatesyou were stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from your boss, mr. manafort, and he didn't notice it. so, clearly, he was not watching it that closely. and the prosecution has been very concerned about this comment because it certainly has the appearance of undercutting gates' testimony. and what we saw in their close was an everett to kind of clean up a lot of issues and sort of tie up the loose ends. they said in part when mr. manafort chose someone, someone to lie to his accountant, he didn't choose a boy scout. the defense said that mr. gates had his hand in the cookie jar. it was not a cookie jar. it was a huge dumpster of money in foreign bank accounts. ladies and gentlemen, the star witness in this case is the document. so, in other words, go to the paper trail, don't just go to what gates said, dana. >> dana: all right, catherine, thank you for that report. >> you are welcome. >> dana: white house is reacting today as former staff oomtio omarosa manigault. i'm joined by ari
ellis iii interjected and said well, mr. gatesyou were stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from your boss, mr. manafort, and he didn't notice it. so, clearly, he was not watching it that closely. and the prosecution has been very concerned about this comment because it certainly has the appearance of undercutting gates' testimony. and what we saw in their close was an everett to kind of clean up a lot of issues and sort of tie up the loose ends. they said in part when mr. manafort chose...
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the comment about a witness said wait, mr. gates is coming in. it's a knee jerk reaction.justification by the lawyer for why you need it now. it was clarified. i think you are going to see him this week. >> great to have you on a sunday morning. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. >>> what are the odds the white house could get their first black white house speaker. >>> an attempted assassination of maduro. they ducked for cover while thousands of soldiers scattered. they escaped unharmed. seven national guardsmen suffered injuries. they dispute the account of events and say there was a gas explosion inside a nearby apartment that caused the scene. owners always seem so happy? because they've chosen the industry leader. subaru forester holds its value better than any other vehicle in its class according to alg. better than cr-v. better than rav4. better than rogue. an adventure that starts with a subaru forester will always leave you smiling. get 0% percent apr financing on the 2018 subaru forester. we really pride ourselves on making it easy for you >> tech: at safelit
the comment about a witness said wait, mr. gates is coming in. it's a knee jerk reaction.justification by the lawyer for why you need it now. it was clarified. i think you are going to see him this week. >> great to have you on a sunday morning. thanks for joining us. >> my pleasure. >>> what are the odds the white house could get their first black white house speaker. >>> an attempted assassination of maduro. they ducked for cover while thousands of soldiers...
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walk us through what's happening. >> well, katy, you explained some of the drama, of course, mr. gates long time pro to jay of paul manafort walking in to testify against his mentor. manafort stare beiing bullets a. today we moved into a different mode where gates is getting into the nitty-gritty and it's been very powerful testimony from gates because it doesn't just rely on his word. the prosecution is very cleverly using documents and e-mails, often with mr. manafort's own words to show participation in this tax fraud and bank fraud. first they showed that manafort and gates together knew about foreign bank accounts that weren't reported on manafort's tax returns and concerted effort to hide income by showing it as loans and most recently i stepped out of the courtroom where they were talking about 2016 when the business had collapsed and they had no clients and trying to lie and prop up income to get loans from a bank. gates testified that manafort directed him to essentially help fake documents. there was one case manafort wanted a pdf converted into microsoft word to change infla
walk us through what's happening. >> well, katy, you explained some of the drama, of course, mr. gates long time pro to jay of paul manafort walking in to testify against his mentor. manafort stare beiing bullets a. today we moved into a different mode where gates is getting into the nitty-gritty and it's been very powerful testimony from gates because it doesn't just rely on his word. the prosecution is very cleverly using documents and e-mails, often with mr. manafort's own words to...
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with more questions from the prosecution and the defence will have their opportunity to speak to mr gateso portray him as an unreliable witness in the trial, the trial itself likely to go on friend of a couple of weeks. two men accused of being part of a terror cell in the islamic state group, that beheaded western hostages and were called the beatles by their captives, have questioned the government's attempt to have them tried in america. speaking for the first time since the legal moves were made public, alexanda koty and shafee elsheikh told the bbc they were not part of the cell, and they haven't been stripped of their british citizenship. they're being held in northern syria, and have been speaking to our middle east correspondent quentin sommerville. for seven months now, alexanda koty and el shafee elsheikh have been held in kurdish and american custody in northern syria. the us government alleges that the men waterboarded, crucified and executed prisoners as part of a jihadist cell dubbed "the beatles" by the prisoners. what did you do in is? as for the specific details as to wha
with more questions from the prosecution and the defence will have their opportunity to speak to mr gateso portray him as an unreliable witness in the trial, the trial itself likely to go on friend of a couple of weeks. two men accused of being part of a terror cell in the islamic state group, that beheaded western hostages and were called the beatles by their captives, have questioned the government's attempt to have them tried in america. speaking for the first time since the legal moves were...
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mr. manafort. gates again responded yes. gates is manafort's long-time business association, who is cooperating with mueller in exchange for a reduced sentence. gates spent his first hour on the stand admitting to the jury most of the bad things and crimes that he has done. gates admitted to helping paul manafort commit bank and tax fraud, holding money in hidden bank accounts, money that was used to fund paul manafort's lavish lifestyle. he testified he knew what they were doing was illegal but said he lied because paul manafort directed him to lie. but he also admitted to crimes of his own, such as embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars from paul manafort and lying to the fbi. this is a crucial element in the manafort defense team's approach, which is to try to blame rick gates for these financial crimes, insisting that paul manafort was taken advantage of by rick gates. paul manafort sat in the courtroom staring down his former aid just at the beginning of this show down and the jury will, in the end, have to pick wh
mr. manafort. gates again responded yes. gates is manafort's long-time business association, who is cooperating with mueller in exchange for a reduced sentence. gates spent his first hour on the stand admitting to the jury most of the bad things and crimes that he has done. gates admitted to helping paul manafort commit bank and tax fraud, holding money in hidden bank accounts, money that was used to fund paul manafort's lavish lifestyle. he testified he knew what they were doing was illegal...
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mr gates is appearing as a government witness against mr manafort, who is accused of fraud. thousands of dollars from mr manafort. tens of thousands of pupils in scotland will receive their exam results today. all of the 135,000 candidates will get their results through the post but many have also opted to receive their grades by text or e—mail from 8am onwards. i'm not sure i like that. i don't like that at all. the phone buzzing, do you open it, do you leave it? it won't come as a shock to hear that food, fans and drinks flew off the shelves during july's heatwave. but the temperatures were not enough to stop a slump in spending. according to the british retail consortium, sales on the high street are still in decline. it's thought the hot weather has put people off from browsing in shop aisles. hollywood film star robert redford has said his next film will be his last. known for roles in butch cassidy and the sundance kid, indecent proposal and the horse whisperer, the 81—year—old actor won an oscar as a director in 1981. he will star in the old man and the gun, the true
mr gates is appearing as a government witness against mr manafort, who is accused of fraud. thousands of dollars from mr manafort. tens of thousands of pupils in scotland will receive their exam results today. all of the 135,000 candidates will get their results through the post but many have also opted to receive their grades by text or e—mail from 8am onwards. i'm not sure i like that. i don't like that at all. the phone buzzing, do you open it, do you leave it? it won't come as a shock to...
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they opened very generally on, well, you'll hear some information about mr. gates crimes he committed. it may be that the prosecutor sort of lulled the defense team into thinking they were going to call mr. gates. they may not call him at all. there are a number of reasons for that. >> glenn kurershner, thank you very much. >>> the president tweets thanking the dictator of north korea. north korea also sent one dog tag that no other way to help u.s. experts identify. we'll talk to ben rhodes who says this may end up being another trump photo-op. "morning joe" is coming right back. welcome! hi there. so, what do you look for in a vehicle? sleek designs. performance. dependability is top on my list. well then, here's some vehicles that deliver on that. woah! wow. oh jeez! that's our truck! it's our truck! and they're our cars! that's my chevy! chevy's the only brand to earn j.d. power dependability awards across cars, trucks and suvs three years in a row. awesome. i'm proud. it's like a dynasty. it's impressive. if yor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, and your
they opened very generally on, well, you'll hear some information about mr. gates crimes he committed. it may be that the prosecutor sort of lulled the defense team into thinking they were going to call mr. gates. they may not call him at all. there are a number of reasons for that. >> glenn kurershner, thank you very much. >>> the president tweets thanking the dictator of north korea. north korea also sent one dog tag that no other way to help u.s. experts identify. we'll talk...
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manafort of course was the campaign chairman, he left and mr. gatesyed on all the way through the inaugural period and there was some testimony from gates yesterday that even when manafort left the campaign he was still trying to work it, one example was trying to get a banker who'd helped him get a loan to be nominated for secretary of the army, poppy. >> that is significant. joe, thank you very much. let's talk about that and more with paul callan, our legal analyst. let's jump off on that. the jury heard the extent to which manafort and gates worked for the trump campaign, the prosecution showed and presented these e-mails where you see manafort imploring gates to help him, to help a banker by -- to help make inroads with the campaign. why is that significant? >> in a couple ways in this trial. if judge initially was preventing prosecutors from even mentioning the trump name during the trial. now we're seeing links to the trump campaign. in this particular instance, manafort is in deep trouble by 2015. he's run out of money, he's broke and he start
manafort of course was the campaign chairman, he left and mr. gatesyed on all the way through the inaugural period and there was some testimony from gates yesterday that even when manafort left the campaign he was still trying to work it, one example was trying to get a banker who'd helped him get a loan to be nominated for secretary of the army, poppy. >> that is significant. joe, thank you very much. let's talk about that and more with paul callan, our legal analyst. let's jump off on...
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and they are going to blame employees gates but potentially other people as well. mr. manafort was busy and he signed documents that was put in front of him. the evidence so far shows that paul manafort was involved in these transactions. we will have to see how that plays out. >> he parks the money in cypress and he didn't realize that you had to tell the irs about it because he had employees to do that. they are not contesting that because the paper trail is there, they are saying he didn't know. >> yes, it is the oligarchs the ukrainians idea to do that. and he just went along. >> all right. thank you for that. >> next. the conspiracy theory out in full force at the president's rally, the unbelievable story behind that. that sign you see there. and why the absolutely insane conspiracy theory represents has more followers than you know right after this. >>> if you tuned into donald trump's rally in florida, you might have known a somewhat ubiquitous symbols in the crowd. those trump supporters you see waving around the letter q are followers of q, an anonymous poster
and they are going to blame employees gates but potentially other people as well. mr. manafort was busy and he signed documents that was put in front of him. the evidence so far shows that paul manafort was involved in these transactions. we will have to see how that plays out. >> he parks the money in cypress and he didn't realize that you had to tell the irs about it because he had employees to do that. they are not contesting that because the paper trail is there, they are saying he...
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mr. gate's credibility. >>> this weekend will mark one year since the deadly unite the right rally in charlottesville. while wounds from that day are still open, the same organizers are planning to hold a rally here in tion's capital. the white natiolist group plans to demonstrate between 5:30 and 7:30. this map shows all the street closures for that day. organizers are expecting up to 300 people to demonstrate. at the same time large groups of counter demonstrators are anning to be there with their own message. president trump isn't scheduled to be at the white house while this is happening. >>> the machin who shot preside ronald reagan wants more freedom. he served 35 years in a mental health hospital before bng released to his mother's home. that was back in 2016. they do not return oo request for comment but we know federal prosecutors will want him to upside undergo another mental evaluation. a judge will hear that request in mid-december. . the next time you get sick, your treatment could be a phone call away. >> what one pharmacy is rolling out to help itscustomers. >>> collecting backpacks fo
mr. gate's credibility. >>> this weekend will mark one year since the deadly unite the right rally in charlottesville. while wounds from that day are still open, the same organizers are planning to hold a rally here in tion's capital. the white natiolist group plans to demonstrate between 5:30 and 7:30. this map shows all the street closures for that day. organizers are expecting up to 300 people to demonstrate. at the same time large groups of counter demonstrators are anning to be...
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manafort was directing to mr. gates to engage in this activity.ll convince this jury that he could be trusted in the can bed that it proven. david: have they done a good job in: robert -- a good job in corroboration? seth: it is extensive. multiple witnesses have been saying about it was mr. manafort that was a criminal mastermind and then you have the emails that show that same sort of thing. when prosecutors evaluate a case, they do not put all of in that basket, as it is a he said, she said, it is not a tryable case. they look like they have put on case.ly coroborated how does it vote for the case? seth: it can become a problem if the judge acts in a way that -- the best way to lose a jury if you are prosecutor if you are playing fast and loose with the rules. this judge is very active and quick to criticize. and even gets personal at times, so many lawyers like lawyers to referee,e judges to be but judge alice is a seasoned judge and he clearly runs a tight ship. shery: talking about the jurors, they follow the wider mueller probe with russian
manafort was directing to mr. gates to engage in this activity.ll convince this jury that he could be trusted in the can bed that it proven. david: have they done a good job in: robert -- a good job in corroboration? seth: it is extensive. multiple witnesses have been saying about it was mr. manafort that was a criminal mastermind and then you have the emails that show that same sort of thing. when prosecutors evaluate a case, they do not put all of in that basket, as it is a he said, she said,...
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gates said in court. adding quote, typical practice was mr. manafort would send me a list of wired requests. ed he used information provided by manafort to create invoices for fake amounts of money for wire transfers. but the money never actually went to the vendors. instead it went to the banks. the purpose of this, according to gates, so that the wire transfers would not be recorded on u.s. business records. nonetheless on monday the prosecutors elicited testimony from mr. gates and one of mr. manafort's accountants that tied him closer to russia. the accountant testified in 2006 mr. manafort received a $10 million loan from oleg deripaska. she said she saw no evidence the loan was ever repaid. throughout paul manafort's attorneys focus has been on undermining the credibility of rick gates, saying why should the jury believe him now considering the fact he has lied before, admitted to lying before to federal prosecutors. rick gates' answer is that he's taking responsibility now for those mistakes. and there was a powerful moment in the trial today where he said that is a choice paul manafor
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that's part of the indictment that is alleging wrongdoing by paul manafort. 15 foreign bank accounts mr. gates said existed. they concealed the evidence of those from the united states government from the tax collectors, the internal revenue service. also important to say that rick gates has admitted to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollar s from. >> with me crime and justice reporter and our legal analyst and former federal prosecutor laura coates. so much to go through and we're not done with the direct examinatio examination. >> here you've got paul manafort who's being accused of all these different crimes, even with his opening statement through his defense counsel said listen, you cannot believe this person rick gates. he's got a plea deal, he has every incentive to not tell you everything that is true because he wants to get a good prison sentence or none at all so we have this battle right now. while they have framed this in a battle of credibility, birds of a feather flock together and a jury will look at this and say we have somebody here who's admitted to lying, who has been in
that's part of the indictment that is alleging wrongdoing by paul manafort. 15 foreign bank accounts mr. gates said existed. they concealed the evidence of those from the united states government from the tax collectors, the internal revenue service. also important to say that rick gates has admitted to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollar s from. >> with me crime and justice reporter and our legal analyst and former federal prosecutor laura coates. so much to go through and we're not...
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defense attorney kevin downing said he came in here, mr. gates that you could rely upon. when the prep of his direct was done on the first question out of the box he fell apart and showed himself to be the liar that he is. and the mueller team's description about gates wasn't that much friendlier but the prosecutor said it doesn't really matter. he said this, first the government is not asking that you take mr. gates' testimony for statements at face value. we haven't asking that or asking that you trust every word that mr. gates said. we're not asking you to like him, either. what we're asking you to do is consider his testimony and test it and verify it, test it against the testimony of other witnesses and see if it is consistent. we do expect paul manafort to be in the building today because when a verdict comes down once the jury is done, they don't wait a whole -- a very long time before they actually announce it. the big question is how long is it going to take this jury of six men and six women from northern virginia to come to a unanimous
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meaning rick gates, the government so desperate to make a case against mr.ort made a deal for mr. gates so it comes down to whose side was more persuasive. the prosecution put up 27 witnesses, the defense none. but the judge reminded the jury that manafort had a right not to testify, manafort did not take the stand. we'll see how that plays out when they begin deliberations. >> jets, keep us posted let me bring if laura coates. you look at the counts and you look at the fact that manafort faces over 300 years in prison if found guilty on all of these counts. the jury is going to be in the deliberation room in just a few minutes. they'll see some things for the first time. they'll see the pictures of this ostentatious life-style, the $15,000 ostrich jacket, the high end clothes that he bought with his foreign wire transfers and you have to defense trying to hang their entire case on discrediting rick gates. the star prosecution witness. is that a risky move? >> it's risky on both sides. it's particularly bold of the defense to hang their entire case on whethe
meaning rick gates, the government so desperate to make a case against mr.ort made a deal for mr. gates so it comes down to whose side was more persuasive. the prosecution put up 27 witnesses, the defense none. but the judge reminded the jury that manafort had a right not to testify, manafort did not take the stand. we'll see how that plays out when they begin deliberations. >> jets, keep us posted let me bring if laura coates. you look at the counts and you look at the fact that manafort...
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the defense said mr. gates had his hand in the cookie jar. it was not a cookie jar. it was a huge dumpster of money in foreign bank accounts. the star witness in this case is the documents. then the closing arguments for the defense. they thanked the jury for their service and reminded them about the central tennants of the u.s. justice system. they said there is a presumption of innocence for the defendant and there is no requirement for the defendant to testify. they reminded the jury the burden is on the government to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. there can't be any gray area. they have to show what manafort did was knowingly and willfully violate tax and bank fraud laws. it has to be beyond a reasonable doubt. hold the government to its burden, ladies and gentlemen. on the final point. a lot of the testimony focussed on manafort's loans secured in 2016. they go to the heart of the bank proud charges. the defense told the jury that the banks never complained to regulators about problems with the loans until the russia special counsel asked question.
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there were hundreds of these gates said in court adding, quote, typical practice was mr. manafort would send me a list of wire requests. gates admit that had he used information provided by manafort to create invoices for fake amounts of money but the money never went to the vendors, instead it went to the banks. the purpose of this, according to gates, so that the wire transfers would not be recorded on u.s. business records. nonetheless, prosecutors elicited testimony from mr. gates and from one of mr. manafort's accountants that tied manafort more closely to russia. the accountant testified that in 2006 mr. manafort received a $10 million loan from a russian oligarch close to president vladimir putin. she said she saw no evidence the loan was ever repaid. the cross-examination today getting very personal at times. gates forced to admit that more than a decade ago he had an affair, that he financed this affair first class travel to london and an apartment in london but he insisted he did not use stolen money to finance the affair. the defense attorney pressing him to kno
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. >> mr. gates is a criminal. mr. manafort is an accused criminal.o hang out with criminals. what you'rin you're seeing is n unusual. >> reporter: what is president trump saying about all this? well, today nothing. but last week he tweeted, asking why the government did not tell him that manafort was under investigation when he worked for the campaign. blaine alexander, washington. >>> conservatives are fed up with facebook. elizabeth, a republican candidate from the fresno area says facebook rejected the ad you're seeing because it showed dead bodies from the cambodian genocide. her parents survived in the 1970s and emigrated to the u.s. facebook says its policy does not allow shocking or sensational content. >>> a fight among friends may have led to that fire. swarmed ay with guns drawn. but it was all a "drill". the f-b-i is hosting an activ >>> bay area law enforcement swarmed a school in the east bay with guns drawn, but it was all a drill. the fbi is hosting an active shooter training in dublin and officers from around the area are taking part
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they set it up today by asking witnesses about the status of mr. gatesand he was repeatedly described as manafort's right hand man and giving instructions to the book keepers and tax preparers, but that's a double-edged sword. the defense will argue he was the one responsible for the misdeeds. he's going to have to acknowledge that he not only committed the crimes and lied to the fbi as he was negotiating with the plea agreement. he lied to the fbi. it could be a really tough moment for the prosecution, but i would argue that they have established so much evidence without gates. as eric said, some of these other tax preparers and book keepers and the days of testimony about all the luxury goods that manafort bought with money from a foreign bank account that his tax returns clearly say he didn't have. >> eric, about those very luxury goods, this speaks to the judge to say he is brisk sounds like an under statement. he has not allowed the artwork to come in and said the juries will get that. he told both sides to take a week out of your arguments and movi
they set it up today by asking witnesses about the status of mr. gatesand he was repeatedly described as manafort's right hand man and giving instructions to the book keepers and tax preparers, but that's a double-edged sword. the defense will argue he was the one responsible for the misdeeds. he's going to have to acknowledge that he not only committed the crimes and lied to the fbi as he was negotiating with the plea agreement. he lied to the fbi. it could be a really tough moment for the...
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gates answered. "did you commit any crimes with mr. manafort?" "yes," gates answered again. the two men spent years working side-by-side. in february, gates pleaded guilty to conspiracy and lying to federal authorities. but today, as a flipped witness cooperating with the special counsel, gates told the court he lied because manafort told him to. and he also admitted he embezzled several hundred thousand dollars from his former boss. a charge manafort's lawyers have long maintained. on this fifth day of trial, the stakes couldn't be higher for the president's former campaign chairman. prosecutors say manafort "believed he was above the law." they say he falsified tax returns and failed to report tens of millions dollars he earned while working for a ukrainian political party with deep ties to russia. they maintain he hid that money in more than 30 offshore accounts in three countries, using the cash to "bankroll his lavish lifestyle," from luxury real estate to antique rugs. but what this case is not about? collusion or russian interference in the election. and prosecutors s
gates answered. "did you commit any crimes with mr. manafort?" "yes," gates answered again. the two men spent years working side-by-side. in february, gates pleaded guilty to conspiracy and lying to federal authorities. but today, as a flipped witness cooperating with the special counsel, gates told the court he lied because manafort told him to. and he also admitted he embezzled several hundred thousand dollars from his former boss. a charge manafort's lawyers have long...
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gates said in court. adding, quote, typical prak us the wiz mr. manafort to send me a list of wire requests. gates admitted that he used information provided by manafort to create invoices or fake amounts of money for wire transfers but the money never actually went to the vendors. instead, it went to the banks. the purpose of this, according to gates, so that the wire transfers would not be recorded on u.s. business records. nonetheless, on monday the prosecutors elicited testimony from mr. gates and from one of mr. manafort's accountants that tied manafort more closely to russia. the accountant cindy laporte testified mr. manafort received a $10 million of deripaska, a russian oligarch close to president vladimir putin. she said she saw no evidence the loan was ever repaid. >> our thanks to jim for that report. let's talk about this with the experts. michael, let's start with you. the case is not directly about 2016 election and any alleged russian conspiracy with any americans and in fact the prosecution said they're not going to introduce evidence about that. and yet, we keep hearing abou
gates said in court. adding, quote, typical prak us the wiz mr. manafort to send me a list of wire requests. gates admitted that he used information provided by manafort to create invoices or fake amounts of money for wire transfers but the money never actually went to the vendors. instead, it went to the banks. the purpose of this, according to gates, so that the wire transfers would not be recorded on u.s. business records. nonetheless, on monday the prosecutors elicited testimony from mr....
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gate's words. it's documents including e-mails with mr. manafort's own words showing that he had knowledge of these frauds, that he knew there were bank accounts outside the reach of the irs. that he knew gates was wiring money from these overseas bank accounts to pay for luxury items like suits and big screen televisions and there was an e-mail introduced just before we broke for launch where manafort was complaining about his tax liability. and the way they came up with, mr. gates said, was they disguised income as loans. and that's fraud. now, where the defense will attack this testimony is that gates was involved in that conduct. gates was the one filing the paperwork. he was engaged with the accountants. it looks like the defense will say this is all gates and not manafort. the problem is there's a lot of evidence tying manafort, including e-mail evidence. >> what are we seeing about body language, demeanor, facial ex-expressie expre expresses, anything like that? >> paul manafort was staring bullets at rick gates, his former protegee.
gate's words. it's documents including e-mails with mr. manafort's own words showing that he had knowledge of these frauds, that he knew there were bank accounts outside the reach of the irs. that he knew gates was wiring money from these overseas bank accounts to pay for luxury items like suits and big screen televisions and there was an e-mail introduced just before we broke for launch where manafort was complaining about his tax liability. and the way they came up with, mr. gates said, was...