mr. gene karpinski, the legal conservation voters out of washington, d.c.. so, mr. rexford, i didn't say this with our distinguished representatives from alaska because the time frame, but when the red light or when the green light comes on that means you have five minutes. when the yellow light comes on that means you have one minute and when the red light means five minutes have expired. you're full statement will appear in the record and i'd like you to try to confine your remarks to that five minutes so we can have time for questions and answers, and i know that the interest shown by this committee on the subject would have a lot of that. so, mr. rexford, you are recognized for five minutes and thank you for being here. >> thank you very much mr. chairman hastings and members of the committee. for the record, my name is fenton rexford. i'm of the trouble but minister for the native village and also the member of this council both of which i'm representing today. i also served previously as the president of the corporation of the surface land owner of 92,000 acre