mr. gephardt and i are trying to talk about.can get this going again. >> i am telling you, your successor could lose his job. >> is a risk we all take in this business. neil: my biggest risk is making sure that there are no big words and the prompter. congressman, let's say you get a deal done. let's say the market sells off on it. because it doesn't believe the words printed on the paper, but they are not real. but it's not a real deal. isn't a bad deal worse than no deal? >> well, they have to get a deal. if you go over the fiscal cliff, then you really do have problems in the market. problems in the economy. neil: i do know that. but it is really credible and the markets believe that. >> there will be a reaction, and the congress will have to get back in town and deal with that, it, like they did with the t.a.r.p. funding years ago. >> the whole t.a.r.p. debacle, the backup financing of the banks, you know, it was shut down. it would shut down the market. so they quickly reconvened and try to get something together to avoid t

mr. gephardt think about that? i said, let me turn this over to him. he echoed my comments. i didn't know leonard boswell at the time but i heard wonderful things about leonard boswell, not only about his skill as a legislator but his decency and character as a human being. not only his experiences -- but his service at home. as a farmer, as a businessman, as a public representative and as a senate leader in iowa. and i want to say that nothing that has transpired over the years that he and i served together in this body have disabused in any way the extraordinary positive things that we're told of me of leonard boswell and why i asked him to come to the congress of the united states. he's been a dear and close friend of mine every day he has served. he will remain a dear and close friend of mine until he and i pass from this earth. he is a salt of the earth human being. he is someone that the american people, if they knew personally, would say is the kind of person they wanted representing them in the congress of the united states or frankly in any other body. leonard boswe