mr. gerard, always a pleasure. good to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. now let's turn to the reverend of jesse jackson, president of the rainbow/push coalition. hopefully the workers of america and those who have fallen on hard times will have a seat at the table. reverend, what should they do? >> well, i think it's important that the president did meet with business today but not to be a white house conference on poverty, despairity and on economic justice. he's been very good to business, they've not been so good back to him. for example, he bailed out the banks with zero interest but they did not lend and reinvest, therefore you have a rise in joblessness and the rise in the home foreclosures. just this past week bank of america now said it will revive its home foreclosures for for example. he bailed out gm, and then one market of a buick is china, and so there must be some real incentives to reinvest in america. i see a tax bill today which what you really have is you have a tax cuts for the very rich in december. there will be spending cuts come apr