mr. gerard. guest: good morning.aller: they want to -- the unions, paper mill industry down here in florida -- i tell you they blame the trade policies and everything on the decline of the unions. i'm going to tell you, the unions are going to put themselves out of work because these grievances and everything that are filed are some of the most ridiculous i have ever seen in my life. people keep their jobs. call out late. screw their bodies on shift and everything. and the union stands behind him. the decline of the union jobs in america will not be from any trade policy. it will be the workers mentality their privileged way of life. guest: i respect your right to be misinformed uninformed, and wrong. the fact of the matter is in every workplace where there is a union, there is a process for the workers to file their concern, whether it is a collective agreement violation they allege, which is a contract between workers and the employer, or if it is something where it is not a violation of the agreement but something

mr. gerard how could a democratic candidate be for the tpp and go to lorraine ohio or pittsburgh pennsylvaniay they're for the middle class when these towns, they're all going to get hit hard when it comes to the service industry and manufacturing? i mean, this is where the rubber hits the road if they're going to support the middle class. you've got a lot of republicans in the house that aren't on board with this because of the sovereignty issue. so where is this -- how big is this going to play in the campaign as you see it? >> i think it's going to play very big in the campaign. in fact, i've said to a number of members of congress today as i've been visiting with them the politics of this are terrible. the politics when you look at the history of what's happened with trade deals and we're going to be going into on election cycle, to alienate your base by trying to pass a trade deal that no one gets to see. the republicans want to see every line of every deal that the president is trying to negotiate with iran but those folks don't care if they see the trade bill that's going to give away

mr. gerard. guest: good morning. caller: they want to -- the unions, paper mill industry down here in florida -- i tell you they blame the trade policies and everything on the decline of the unions. i'm going to tell you, the unions are going to put themselves out of work because these grievances and everything that are filed are some of the most ridiculous i have ever seen in my life. people keep their jobs. call out late. screw their bodies on shift and everything. and the union stands behind him. the decline of the union jobs in america will not be from any trade policy. it will be the workers mentality their privileged way of life. guest: i respect your right to be misinformed uninformed, and wrong. the fact of the matter is in every workplace where there is a union, there is a process for the workers to file their concern, whether it is a collective agreement violation they allege, which is a contract between workers and the employer, or if it is something where it is not a violation of the agreement but somethi

mr. gerard. guest: good morning. caller: can you inform the public about the historic 1992 ross perot, the giant sucking sound of jobs involving nafta versus bill clinton? what brought that about? guest: well, look, let's back up a bit. the initial negotiation of nafta was done with george bush senior. bill clinton became president on the promise that he would fix nafta and in particular fix the labor chapter, which he did not do. >> good afternoon. i am marilynn serafini with the alliance for health reform. on behalf of our honorary cochairman, senators carter and blunt, i would like to welcome you to today's briefing on the second of health care costs. i would also like to thank our partner in this briefing, the kaiser family foundation will stop and we have -- kaiser family foundation. and we have with us as michael monitor -- co-moderator, drew altman from the kaiser foundation. the mission today is to take some of the mystery out of health care costs. our experts will extend the trends, the prospects moving forw