mr. gillen? mr. berry. >> yes, senator, i agree that we do want to be in first because we get the first mover benefit in the economy. i'm also concerned about as we move to 5g that we're also ready for 5g in all of rural america. we need to get to 4g lte, the faster we get there, the faster we can have the benefits in rural america and urban suburban america of the 5g world. i don't think we want to leave half the united states or half the nation behind this economic opportunity for the new mobile world. and so that's my concern. yes, we need to be on the forefront of innovation, but we also need to do it in a way that allows the entire economy to benefit from this great opportunity. >> thank you very much. well, mr. berry, let me ask you, then, to elaborate, on the concern that i expressed, and that you expressed about data collection, and broadband mapping. i think you said it's just -- it's just totally inadequate. so if you'd comment on that first, and then if anyone else would like to follow up,

mr. gillen and all of you for your time and testimony today. mr. gillen you talked a lot about infrastructure for the sfu ture at today's hearing. spectrum say critical piece of this, the juice that's going to keep innovation running, satellite, wifi, other technologies. this committee's done a rot lot of great work under the chairman's leadership including the mobile now act that recently passed the house as part of the ray bomb's act. i wanted to say something about the name of that bill. ray is a -- was a beloved figure in the house and great person just neat for this recognition to have happened. i believe we've got to continue to keep up the pressure to free even more spectrum and help close that digital divide. that's why senator hassen and i introduced the airwaves act to free up more lonsed and unlicensed spectrum to build out the unlicensed rural broadband network. do you agree we should consider ledge lation like the airwaves act as we continue to inspect this? >> i think it should be airwaves. airwaves is the roadmap for your country when