mr. gillian's thank you very much. i understand the excitement that hvp has for the lt. and even aboard. the key thing is we'll have a working relationship to come up with some general principles and general recommendations and i think that it's important for us to have the continuity which is why i'm appreciative that this gentleman will play this role. i think it's important to move this ball forward to get this work going. and you know, i look forward to those individuals serving in this capacity. so thank you for your consideration and wish you again, a happy halloween. thank you, supervisor campos. my public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. my whole question is for you supervisor campos. with the 9 member committee did you need at least 5 to actually have official meetings or can you start >> i would defer to the city attorney but i imagine a quorum of a 9 member body would be 5 people. >> that's right and i believe the ordinance creating the committee provides that the committee must meet within a certain amount of days after a quorum of