mr. ginsberg said. i do want to ask, i know sometimes there is contentious battles on affordable housing on the sites. i know they considered landmarking the cottage and also building 200 units 50 percent affordable housing. i know the neighborhood has gone through various discussions on this. i see equity as having open space for low income southeast neighborhood, but i know that housing is such a big goal. i'm just wondering what the history of that discussion from five 5 years ago and now we are considering this as open space, but if mr. uptike could talk about the need for housing and now we are moving towards this open space project? >> yeah. actually randy would be good in the tenderloin housing clinic. >> thank you, supervisor mar. i will say that there has been very strong support for this park and we are at a planning commission hearing in 2010 where joe fox laid out her plan for the next chrissy field for san francisco and i said, that's fine with us, but no one is offering us any money for a

mr. ginsberg we understand we are still working on the budget. we'll see you back next wednesday. colleagues, no other comments or questions? thank you very much. up next we have the war memorial. mr. clerk? it's part of our budget. could you call items 12 and 13, please. city clerk: sf sf 12 item 126789 ordinance appropriating an additional $14, 496, 0112 for the veterans building seismic upgrade and improvement project of the department of war memorial for fy 2014-2015. item 13: [issuance of tax exempt and taxable lease revenue commercial paper notes - war memorial project - not to exceed $14,500,000] 13. 140641 sponsor: mayor resolution authorizing the execution and delivery, from time to time, of tax-exempt and/or taxable commercial paper notes in a aggregate principal amount not to exceed $14,500,000 to provide interim financing for the costs of seismic upgrade of and improvements to war memorial project and authorizing other related actions.1234 >> thank you. thanks for holding off for parks and recreation. >> thank you. i'm beth murray for the war memorial performing arts ce

mr. ginsberg talked about in terms of the water fronted and this is the biggest picture and in terms of our open space acquisition situation there is, i have always understood it to be this property as part of a broader strategy. the board was i think correctly and thank you colleagues unanimously supported the acquisition of the future side of the knowey valley square which they worked on for several years and grants and fundraising was almost totally funded for the actual construction of that project. it was very exciting. i understood at the time when we moved fore with that site, that moved forward first because there was a time sensitivity about purchasing because if we didn't purchase it that we were going to lose it to development. i always understood the other pieces to the strategy for the purchases where the eunice property, francisco reservoir and as yet unidentified parcel in district 6 which definitely needs more open space but at the time and even now we don't really have anything concrete in mind. i'm sure that will change and i know i'm very committed to making sure district

mr. ginsberg is right. we need to take the long view of san francisco here. once we lose plots like this in this development we lose it forever. we need more and more open space to really enhance our quality of life and protect it quite frankly as our city changes. i know the community process and the work at supervisor cohen's office and i have seen it firsthand as my office doing the san francisco reservoir at the same time and i think it's tremendous. the ability to connect that part of the city that is really now starting to emerge i think is a really unique opportunity at this time and these projects come up in opportunity. from my perspective, i think we should be all over it. colleagues, i would like to entertain a motion and i am supporting this. >> supervisor wiener? >>supervisor scott weiner: i move for positive recommendation. >> before can we take the amendments by mr. rhodes? so moved. >> i want to make a comment? supervisor mar? >>supervisor eric mar: i want to understand for an acquiring a property on open space for yellow stone oh #9 -- yosemi

mr. ginsberg. >> just to comment briefly, supervisor, i think we agree with you. i think the issue regarding housing and open space where the parks department where our goal is try to support increased density and to make sure we have the open space to accommodate and ensure the quality of life as more homes are being built in this city. but to your point, if we look at the patterns and acquisitions we have been leveraging outside dollars with our acquisition event and we have date of -- done it in a number of ways. there was some private fundraising and a proposition in 84. the 900 eunice we have received a grant and that park will be developed with a combination of public funding and maybe hopefully some community. >> i understand and i think those are really significant efforts, but i feel like we fine tune what high needs are in order to match the neighborhoods that have the significant amount of ability to raise funds greater than other neighborhoods where there are other high needs area that aren't being done. that's the reality of how it works. i do feel th

mr. ginsberg you raised an important point at the beginning of this conversation. so i would welcome a response from either mr. durham or mr. web. but if a plan looks at its network and says we have 30 ophthalmologists in our network and they are looking at the specialty designation but not looking aing aing a at subspec. should they be doing a little bit more of a deeper dive. if for example someone needs to see a retina specialist but that ophthalmologist doesn't provide a lot of retina services. should they be taking it down to the cpt level to find out? do we have, you know, an adequate number of retina specialists in our network to be caring for patients with very specific needs? so i think that is really important point. and you know i've heard of health plans using the geo access reports to help determine network adequacy. that doesn't go to the subspecialty level. so i'd welcome any thoughts that mr. web or mr. durham have or even mr. ginsberg on ascertaining whether truly there is network adequacy. >> let me say something quickly about the subspecialties an

mr. ginsberg and some others, and we were told we could not have any kind of finding against the head of park and rec because it was the under lingses that did the work in the violation was and now we're told that in regard to planning department -- excuse me, the sunshine ordinance task force they were advised by the deputy city attorney at the time that they should pursue this with the underlings rather than mr. rahaim and now they were told well, no you should have been did it with mr. rahaim. this is like lucy and the football. >> [inaudible] >> sorry about that. >> let me -- but i want to pursue something further. i think we have enough evidence here and mr. rahaim violated the ordinance and it can be based on a willful or non willful violation. there is evidence to sustain a non willful violation given that we have in the record tonight that mr. rahaim is the head of this organization. he has one midlevel supervisor between him and these underlings who do these tasks. they report to the one midlevel person. we have been hold that mr. rahaim will discipline them if they do things th

mr. ginsberg, can you tell me you plan to take responsibility of this property for certain from the department of real estate? >> yes. >> it will be under your portfolio? >> yes. and it's part of a lot of neighborhood planning that has gone on in the indian neighborhood and perhaps cohen's office can speak about that. this is right at the hub of several other parcels of open space. we have the real potential to create what some people are referring to as a green crescent. other people call it the chrissy field of the southeast. several parcels of over space along the water front in a neighborhood that is transitioning at a time when the city is partnering to invest in housing and transportation and as density in creases in that neighborhood we have an outstanding opportunity before us to plan not just a park, but open space that really could become a signature park of the city's open space portfolio. >> one of the other things that i brought up the last time when we acquired property was the fact that we don't have sufficient park controls, we don't have sufficient maintenance staff and with s

mr. ginsberg. if an inventory is done about natural areas that exist on, say, private property, i guess that inventory would be initiated by the planning department or perhaps by rec and park. so, how, how will that inventory -- how would that inventory be initiated and how would it be performed? >> my first -- first of all, we are doing a natural areas management plan for the properties that are under control -- >> i'm talking about private property. >> the inventory, if it moved forward, it would probably be initiated by the department of the environment. we haven't figured out the implementation of that stuff yet. >> and then what would be the -- what would be the -- what would be -- once the inventory is done, whoever does it, whether it's environment or whoever performs t they would come up with -- produce -- it would be an a administrative act. they would produce an inventory saying here are all the private property natural areas. what happens if you own property and it's listed on there? wha

mr. ginsberg, you have an advantage that many other officials don't, of actually being in gaza and having the feeling there. what would you advise the israelis to do next? >> i think what's clear is israel cannot accept these attacks from gaza. against its population, no matter what may be any justification. hamas is a terrorist organization. let's make sure everybody understands that. they were the ones who started launching these missiles into israel. it's not the first time, and israel has to end the constant harassment of its population notwithstanding the fact that israel has not had to deal with the consequences of a lot of civilian casualties because it has the iron dome system. so i think what israel has to do is be able -- and its leadership has to be able to say to the israeli population, we stopped it. they will no longer be able to launch missiles into israel and we're going to stop the infiltration and the terrorist support that it receives from iran. >> steve, quickly, what would your advice to israel be? >> i agree with mark about the missiles. at the same time, i would say

mr. ginsberg, you have an advantage that many other officials don't, of actually being in gaza and having the feeling there. what would you advise the israelis to do next? >> i think what's clear is israel cannot accept these attacks from gaza. hamas is a terrorist organization. let's make sure everybody understands that. they were the ones who started launching these missiles into israel. it's not the first time, and israel has to end the constant harassment of its population notwithstanding the fact that israel has not had to deal with the consequences of a lot of civilian casualties because it has the iron dome system. so i think what israel has to do is be able -- and its leadership has to be able to say to the israeli population, we stopped it. they will no longer be able to launch missiles into israel and we're going to stop the infiltration and the terrorist support that it receives from iran. >> steve, quickly, what would your advice to israel be? >> i agree with mark about the missiles. at the same time, i would say get on a genuine path to talking about borders and security and

mr. ginsberg on ascertaining whether truly there is network adequacy. >> let me say something quickly about the subspecialties and move onto the other questions. i would say, you know, we are on a learning process about how to regulate and have transparency for limited network plans. because they are -- and i'm familiar with some anecdotes where say in ophthalmology, which i know fairly well where the issue about retina specialists was raised. and, you know, through the academy of ophthalmology went to the insurer who i think just responded. oh, we didn't know that. so we will make sure to put some retina specialists in the plan. so i think it's just discovery that this is an issue. and i would say yes, you know, the detail that is going to be needed in some specialties will probably have to go by sub specialty. and it is going to make it more complex but this is going to be a big part of our market environment. so we mights well ju as well ju that. >> anybody else? brian. >> it does vary by state. but some do a deep dive and they go down to specialists, subspecialists. not at medicare venu

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ginsberg called the decision sweeping, and asked . . . >> at the white house, the president declined to comment. but his spokesman said mr. feels the decision puts women's health in jeopardy. >> we believe that the owners of for-profit companies should not be allowed to assert their personal religious views. >> democratic lawmakers denounced the decision as an attack on the rights of women. republican leaders called it a victory for religious freedom and a defeat for what they say is government overreach by the obama administration. those represents hobby lobby insists the decision is a narrow one. >> this opinion is very focused on closely held, family owned businesses that have a religious objection to the contraception mandate. it does not apply to ibm or others. >> still the president and others in congress are looking at what action they might take to ensure all women get full contraception coverage. >>> the supreme courthanded down another big decision today, this one affecting labor decisions. certain home health-care workers in illinois do not have to pay union dues if they don't want to join the union. but the co