mr. ginsburg?i'd like to make a comment or two, and then i have a more specific suggestion in line with your concerns and comments.

mr. ginsburg? >> i'd like to make a comment or two, and then i have a more specific suggestion in line with your concerns and comments. first of all, i do want to take a step back and just remember -- i know we have some concerns about a specific location at union square, but the overall proposal before you, there is probably not another amenity or concession proposal we have brought before you that is more consistent with the mission of this department. it is exercise and bicycles, and it's transit-friendly and environmentally friendly, and it has the option. this is something very unique. we are creating for the first time in this city a bike network. a bicycle network where you can -- and it's something that the mayor and several members of the board of supervisors have been talking about for years. that you will be able to pick up a bike in one location and actually drop it off. and this is also going to be in our parks. and it's an opportunity to get people from the downtown corridor, the hote

mr. ginsburg, you have your hand up, did you have something you wanted to say?i wanted to give a couple comments and then i had a suggestion. >> a couple things, i loved the fact that we have people in the city who are riding bikes. believe it or not, i ride a bike quite a bit, just not in the city. i ride -- i do a lot of bike trips in other countries, and i have to say a lot of those folks come to our city and they are great bike riders because they live in cities around the world where there are so many bikers. so i'd love to see these tourists drive their cars as well as they ride their bikes. i think that's the biggest issue is have tourists drive cars. but the point is, this bike operator, my concern is not with the bike operator. my concern is with the drivers who are downtown and the bus drivers and the safety for those who are renting these bicycles. that's my concern that comes out of this. and i would suspect that's the concern of the union square merchants because that's not something you want people to have to worry about when you are attracting the

mr. yang said, foreign governments, state and local governments, those have all? those all fall under the apa definition of person. >> justice ginsburg, they do. and we would agree that as a matter of statutory construction, the concept of personal privacy does apply to those, those other categories of actors. now, whether once that privacy interest is balanced against the public's interest in disclosure -- that balance may well be different with respect to public or foreign entities. but -- but certainly they -- they have a right to personal privacy under the terms of the statute. >> can you give us an idea of -- the corporation has been shielded by exemption 4 for its confidential, financial information, trade secrets; and its employees have been protected under exemption 7. what is it, what would be -- would fall within this privacy exception that would not be confidential business information or relate to employees of the corporation? >> justice ginsburg, we -- i could give you two categories or kinds of examples. one is, for example, a series of e-mails among corporate officers -- granted, whose own personal names and identifyin

mr. yang said, foreign governments, state and local governments, those have all? those all fall under the apa definition of person. >> justice ginsburg, they do. and we would agree that as a matter of statutory construction, the concept of personal privacy does apply to those, those other categories of actors. now, whether once that privacy interest is balanced against the public's interest in disclosure -- that balance may well be different with respect to public or foreign entities. but -- but certainly they -- they have a right to personal privacy under the terms of the statute. >> can you give us an idea of -- the corporation has been shielded by exemption 4 for its confidential, financial information, trade secrets; and its employees have been protected under exemption 7. what is it, what would be -- would fall within this privacy exception that would not be confidential business information or relate to employees of the corporation? >> justice ginsburg, we -- i could give you two categories or kinds of examples. one is, for example, a series of e-mails among corporate officers -- granted, whose own personal names and identifyin