mr. ginsburg. >> i'm sorry, go ahead i didn't see you. >> good afternoon commissioners i'm sorry is a.d. before i begin i doctrine an agricultural engineer and my family owns a farm i joined the lions recently and i'm fully supporting the program and excited about it just as a enterprise might have as well i think there is a lot of pro tem opportunity for improving the urban environment through the agricultural i was at the silicon valley meeting and there's a lot of exciting things going on some are critical farms going up in chicago and japan and los angeles in order to advances the technology we need the city and government support in other words, to do so. >> thank you. >> now, mr. ginsburg. >> oh, you might ask for more people. >> any other public comment. >> seeing none, public comment is closed. >> still want to take mr. ginsburg. >> the third time is a charm i want to suggest i was going to move we clone anna shulman (laughter) i really wanted to thank her for her amazing leadership and depositing and anonymity for their support in our urban agricultural program it is a team effo

mr. hallward-driemeier: that's absolutely right, your honor. justice ginsburg: so you are supposing a situation where the plaintiffs do not prevail, and so a state can retain its ban on same-sex marriage. the question is has does it have to recognize marriage from out of state? would it make any difference if the couple came from the state where there is a ban on same-sex marriage, goes to a neighboring state that allows it, and then comes right back home again? mr. hallward-driemeier: no, your honor. i don't think that there would be such a distinction. and, in fact, none of these four states draws that kind of line that your honor presupposes. and that's one of the points that's so important here, is that as the court observed with respect to doma in windsor, the nonrecognition laws here are a stark departure from the state's traditional practice of recognizing out-of-state marriages even though they could not have been celebrated within the state. it's precisely that circumstance where the laws diverge that the issue arises. and the three states that have th

mr. bursch: what these laws do is they have disparate impact. you have to show that there is some animus that motivates this. justice ginsburg: it is not that we are of this group and they are of that group. mr. bursch: a 100% in fact does not mean animus. we have to determine a discriminatory -- justice to kagan: what did we say about people wearing yarmulkes to gas? that was discrimination against jews. the case that i said was what i said. justice pr breyer: i will go back and read windsor. i do not remember anything that says that the right to marry extends to only opposite sex couples. i'm surprised if this court actually wrote that. if it did write that, and you can immediately call that page to mine, i will doubly looked at at it. mr. nbursch: i apologize for not having the page. you will find in winds are that the obligation to opposite sex couples -- what we're talking about is -- justice breyer: in the fundamental right has to be a right to marry. you say it is a limitation. justice scalia: did justice breyer joined that? my lord! justice breyer: i is of privacy does not have this case in front of him. [laughter] m

was in keeping with phil ginsburg early vision an earlier connector in this instance we perceived what was prepared no for thought given to that is it is now an easy cross over mr. president for example. >> thank you. >> may i say. >> others i represent. >> i understand make it brief if you know. >> i will unfortunately, it has become an issue as to the adjacent neighbors having more of a say than we do in terms of but for and so forth we've enjoyed excellent communication with the neighbors and like to ask their support in a meeting we can all get together at the site and come up with reasonable compromises concerning the beautifies that limits the trail that was earlier envisioned thank you very much. >> thank you. >> is there any additional public comment on this item seeing none, public comment is closed. >> let me say a few words about this because first, i want to thank commissioner for going to the meeting it's been over a year by the neighbors on either side there was problems we had an illegal path and neighbors with problems and our primary concern as often is the case we're to try a accommodate a number of policies and make them work the neighbors wa