mr. giuliani, mr. giuliani's associates, mr. meadows, members of congress, it's difficult to distinguish the members i'm thinking were involved at thanksgiving -- >> at the presidents request, >> what did the president say when he called? >> he turned the call over to mr. eastman who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather contingent electors in case legal challenges that were ongoing change the result. of any of the dates. [inaudible] my understanding is the campaign did take the lead and we just were helping them. . >> as trump in his supporters continue to lose, some campaign lawyers became convinced that the states trump laws were no longer appropriate [inaudible] . >> i called somebody saying, there must be a litigation pending in the states i don't think this is appropriate and it's not the right thing to do. i don't remember how i phrased it but, i got into a back and forth and i think it was with can cheese borough where i said, all right, get after it i'm out. >> at that point,

mr. giuliani? >> i did. after he had left the campus that evening, i went back up to our office and i found mr. meadows in his office on the couch, scrolling through his phone, leaning against the doorway, saying some interesting conversations -- rudy, mark, sounds like we are going to go to the capitol. he said something to the effect of, there is a lot going on, cass, but i don't know, things might get real bad on january 6. >> mr. meadows is engaged in litigation with the committee, to try to avoid testifying here. what was your reaction when he said to you things might get real, real bad? >> and the days before january 2, i was apprehensive about the 6th, i had her general plans for a rally. i had heard tentative movements to go to the capitol. but when hearing rudy's take on january 6, 10 mark's response -- and mark's response, that evening was the first moment that i remember feeling scared. and nervous for what could happen january 6. and i had a deeper concern for what was happening with the planning

mr. giuliani. >> thank you. i understand that georgia secretary of state's office investigated those allegations and didn't find any evidence of fraud. what did you find when your office conducted its own investigation? >> we found that this suitcase full of olives, the alleged black suitcase that was being seen pulled from under the table was actually an official lockbox where ballots were kept safe. we found out that there was a mistake in terms of misunderstanding that there were done counting ballots for the night. and the partisan watchers that was signed by each of the respective party were announced at to send hope it went to realize someone from the secretary of state office had indicated no, no, no, , we're nt done for the night you need to go heading continue counting, so once they packed up the lockbox full of ballots they brought back the official ballot box again and continued to tally the ballots from that, from the lockbox. unfortunately during the senate hearing mr. giuliani only played a clip th

mr. giuliani speaking to the cameras i will come back to you for an update. appreciate. >>> it speaking of things going down in courtrooms and with judges, we're just one day away from a hearing that's going to decide whether or not we'll see what prompted last week's search at mar-a-lago because we know who, what, when, where, but we do not know the why as it relates to the doj's justification for this search formally. the justice department is expected to say hey, we don't want that released, saying it contains highly sensitive information that could effectively mess up their investigation and ahead of that hearing, there's new "washington post" reporting saying that former president, donald trump, is having a tough time finding a legal team to represent him. his former attorney michael cohen telling the "post" a lot of this because mr. trump is in cohen's words, a very difficult client who rarely listens to sound legal advice. i want to bring in the author of that piece, "washington post" political reporter isaac. good to have you. you write one former tru

trump's lawyer, mr giuliani helped lead legal challenges to the outcome of the vote and has repeatedly made false claims of widespread fraud. i got more details from our north america correspondent peter bowes. i think this shows how wide this investigation is. i think it is especially significant because rudy giuliani was a very close member of donald trump's inner circle as his personal attorney, the former mayor of new york city but at this time, late 2020, very closely involved as you say in the attempts by donald trump to overturn the 2020 election result in the state of georgia. the fact that he has been named as a target means that he could potentially be indicted on criminal charges. clearly, it isn't there yet, but this would suggest based on the evidence so far that it is a distinct possibility that he could find himself in that position. as opposed to someone like senator lindsey graham, again very close to donald trump, he has also been called to appear before this grand jury but purely as a witness. and peter, this comes as the investigation continues into those documents

mr giuliani helped lead legal challenges to the outcome of the vote and has repeatedly made false claimswidespread fraud. moscow says its defence minister has spoken by phone to the head of the united nations, antonio guterres, about the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant in ukraine. the area's currently under russia's control. moscow and kyiv accuse each other of shelling the site. now on bbc news, return of the tigers. in 2010, the himalayan nation of nepal was one of 13 countries to commit to doubling its wild tiger populations by 2022. nepal is now the only country to have achieved that goal. tigers are making a remarkable comeback here in nepal. their numbers more than doubling in the last ten years. tigers are the majestic creatures. being assigned in the protection duties, it's an honour, you know, it's a privilege. it's a small victory in a battle to bring them back from the brink of extinction. it is definitely something to be celebrated. it does not come without the cost. the common area that the tiger and prey species and humanity shares is so tight, the community lives in terror. the

mr. giuliani. at one point he raised whether the justice department would file a lawsuit in the supreme court. at a couple of junctures and there were questions about making public statements or about holding a press conference. and one of the later junctures, was this issue of sending a letter to state legislatures in georgia or other states, and so there were different things raised had different parts or different intervals, the common theme being his dissatisfaction about what the justice department had done to investigate election fraud. i will say that the justice department declined all of those requests that i was just referencing because we did not think that they were appropriate based on the facts and the law as we understood them. >> thank you. so, mr. donoghue, on december 15th, the day after attorney general barr announced his reservation resignation, the president summit you and mr. rosen to the white house. at this meeting with the president, what did he want to discuss? >> there we

mr. giuliani. and hold him to what he said. so again, it ends up being a lot of spin at the time, sound bites and just thanks to try to cause a stir, right, so we'll see what comes out of the grand jury. we probably won't see that for a while, as it is a secret proceeding, but we'll see what happens and what mr. giuliani has to say when the grand jury is complete. >> page, how strong do you think that evidence is? >> i think it's particularly strong. i mean, there is a georgia crime for making a false statement in an official proceeding. and that not only can be a separate felony offense but perhaps more importantly in this investigation, it can be the predicate act for a racketeering charge, and everything we've seen about this grand jury, the witnesses that have been called, the filings that have been made in court, i think the district attorney is trying to build a rico case, and so each one of these false statements could be a predicate act for subsequent rico indictment. >> peter, i want to ask you about what former vice p

mr. giuliani that they no longer consider him to be a material witness in their criminal investigation of election interference efforts in the state of georgia. mr. giuliani's lawyers say they were notified today by georgia state prosecutors that their client, rudy giuliani, is now officially a target of that investigation. no longer a material witness, now a target. that effectively means prosecutors are warning giuliani that he may get indicted in that case under georgia state law and so he should get his ducks in a row. now, beyond that, trump ally republican senator lindsey graham, he had argued recently in federal court, that he should be allowed to defy a subpoena to testify to the grand jury in that case. senator graham says he has been notified that he is not a target, he's just a witness. but he does not want to answer a subpoena to testify as a witness in that case, because he told the court in georgia he's just doing his job as a senator and he should be protected as such from having to answer questions about it. his lawyers argued to the court when senator graham called georgi

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mr. giuliani 's testimony and appearance before the georgia legislature.unt with some of the other things she has said since then, while he may not have received a target ball, i think her team may disclose that they are looking at him as a possible conspirator. >> gwen keyes flemming, thank you for once again guiding us through the news of this investigation. we really appreciate it. >> my pleasure, thank you for having me. >> coming up, president biden is struggling under the crush of news of the trump search warrant to get attention to his big week of legislative achievements including the most important climate legislation ever passed by the united states senate. white house chief of staff ron klain will join us next. ext. ns because i trust their quality. they were the first to be verified by usp... ...an independent organization that sets strict quality and purity standards. nature made. the number one pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a c

mr. giuliani, when you meant to georgia lawmakers, to delight to them?we will not talk about this until the cranberry, and grandeur is, as i, recall is a secret. >> do you believe trump is the ultimate target of this investigation? >> i'm not going to comment on the grandeur investigation. >> all right, joining me now, nick ackerman, the former assistant special watergate prosecutor. nick, thank you very much. so, this one we want to keep secret. the other one they want released. they won't make up their minds. >> they can't make up their minds. >> right, so six hours of testimony, does that tell you anything about what could've been going on in the court? >> oh, absolutely. there is only a couple of possibilities here. don one is that rudy giuliani just testified and told the truth about everything. pretty unlikely. he has been told that he's a target of the investigation. his lawyers brought costello as a well seasoned criminal defence lawyer. rudy giuliani knows with the sticks. are so anything that would incriminate him, he would've assorted his fift

mr. giuliani claim attorney-client privilege? >> he can try, but that won't be the most prominent privilege he asserts. it will likely be the fifth amendment privilege against self-incrimination. >> reporter: tonight information about allen weisselberg. he's expected to plead guilty in his tax evasion case and be sentenced to five months in jail he's also expected to cooperate in the upcoming trial against the trump organization but not with investigations involving the former president himself before taking office mr. trump repeatedly called out hillary clinton for storing classified information on a private email server as secretary of state >> in my administration, i'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. >> reporter: as president, mr. trump signed a law stiffening penalties for the mishandling of classified documents turning it from a misdemeanor to a felony >> reporter: what does this mean for former president trump from a legal perspective? >> for mr. trump it's a remarkable moment

mr. giuliani's testimony and appearance before the georgia legislature. account with some of the other things she has said since then, while he may not have received a -- i think her team may disclose that they are looking at him as a possible conspirator. >> when keys fleming, thank you for once again guiding us through the news of this investigation. we really appreciate it. >> my pleasure thank you for having me. >> coming up, president biden is struggling under the crush of news of the trump search warrant to get attention to his big week of legislative achievements including the most climate legislation ever passed by the united states senate. white house chief of staff ron klain will join us next. klain will join us next. s. unlike pepcid, which stops working after 9. 24 hour protection. prilosec otc one pill, 24 hours, zero heartburn. any questions, chris? all good, thanks maura! there you go, one new inhaler! nice did you get my refill too? maybe healthier is auto refills and delivery made easy. you're a lifesaver. have a nice day. ♪ (customer) sa

mr. giuliani's lawyers say they were notified today by georgia state prosecutors that their client, rudy giuliani is now officially a target of that investigation. prosecutors are warning giuliani that he may get indicted in that case under georgia state law so he should get his ducks in a row. beyond that, trump ally lindsey graham, he had argued recently in federal court he should be allowed to defy a subpoena to testify to the grand jury in that case. senator graham said he notified that he's not a target. he's just a witness but he does not want to answer a subpoena to testify in that case because he told a court in georgia he's just doing his job as a senator and he should be protected as such from it having to answer questions about him. his lawyers argued to the dhurt when senator graham called georgia officials after the presidential election, he was doing his "due diligence." he was just asking questions to inform his own vote as a senator on whether he was going to vote to certify the election results. they say because he was just doing his work as a senator when he made the ca

mr. giuliani's case he had other clients and in both cases they seized electronic devices that had gig gigabyte of material here. we are dealing with 27 boxes total taken from mar-a-lago on august 8th. that in the schemes of these investigations isn't really a lot. 27 boxes is manageable even for a judge and their clerks to review in chambers. the tiepts of reviews that have necessitated special masters in the past is where doj themselves recognizes that it is both voluminous and burdensome and where the risk of mistake is too high. the giuliani case, the request for special master came from doj itself. not from mr. giuliani and his lawyers. >> and in terms of timing for this filing, the deadline for the justice department is today. do we have any indication when this might get dropped on the docket? >> i would love it if it popped on my phone right now. but because of that long deadline, she said on tuesday or before. it really could come as late as midnight. sometimes there will be a filing and it takes a little while before the clerk of the court will be able to upload that filing to the ele

mr. giuliani should be waiting for indictment. >> meanwhile, senator graham ordered to testify, but he's appealing to a higher court. what is the outcome he is hoping for and how likely is that to happen >> i think the outcome that he's realistically hoping for is to delay. take some time off the clock, so to speak, and show to the former president that he's being loyal and doing whatever he can to resist this. i don't realistically think that he's going to get out of testifying before a grand jury >> renato mariotti, thanks to you as always. former trump organization cfo allen weisselberg expected to plead guilty to criminal charges as early as thursday according to nbc news. last summer, the manhattan d.a.'s office charged weisselberg with tax fraud and other crimes he's accused of receiving off the books perks at the trump organization sources familiar with the case tell nbc that he's nearing a plea deal with prosecutors the terms of the plea have not been disclosed sources familiar with the case say he is not expected to coop cooperate in the broader investigation into former preside

mr. giuliani.nk she should be very concerned about her liability as well, given how closer contracts are. >> let me switch gears and get your final thoughts on the justice department's investigation into the january 6th attack. as i mentioned this week, they subpoenaed the former white house lawyer eric herschmann and, of course, if people remember, he was one of the breakout stars from the january 6th hearings on capitol hill. let me play for you and our viewers a small glimpse of what he had to say at the time. >> what they were proposing, i thought was months. they screamed at me that i was a quitter -- i said to him, are you of your effing mind? i said i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on. orderly transition. eventually he, he said, orderly transition. i said, good john, now i will give you the best free legal advice you will ever get in your life. get a great effing criminal defence lawyer, you will need it. >> renato, what kind of information could somebody like

mr. giuliani is about to go under oath. in fact, in just two days, to face the georgia grand jury this wednesday we know a judge pushed prosecutors in that state they should inform giuliani of his exact jeopardy before he goes into that testimony for fairness. and indeed, this is legally a tradition. so now he knows his current status in that probably and that may make make his lawyers more likely to advise him to take the fifth because the questions are about the same overlapping topics, just as trump did last week in an unrelated case. we also have some clues about giuliani's exposure, where his election lies may have turned potentially criminal. >> dominion, the connection to chavez is a highly -- what would that suggest? phantom votes. >> not just any clip. rudying, i could pick from all kinds of clips of what prosecutors would call evidence because sometimes your words can become testimonial evidence and that statement i just showed you in brief, that was made in georgia. you could say people in politics lie all the ti

mr. giuliani. we often hear the term subject thrown around. many different people could be a subject of the case. that means that they are being looked at, but target means something very specific and it means mr. giuliani should be waiting for indictment >> meanwhile, he is appealing to a higher court. what is the outcome he is hoping for and how likely is that to happen? >> i think the outcome that he is realistically hoping for is to delay, take some time off the clock, so to speak, and show to the former president that he is being loyal and doing whatever he can to resist this. i don't realistically think that he is going to get out of testifying. >> renato, our thanks to you, as always. >>> former trump organization cfo alan weisel berg expected to plead guilty to criminal charges as early as thursday. last summer, the manhattan d.a.s office charged him with tax fraud and other crimes. he is accused of receiving off the books projects at the trump organization. they were telling nbc that he is nearly complete with prosecutors. the terms o

mr. giuliani was in the late night military with the coup and they went for maga street muscle, some peoplethat. i've been careful with the evidence. we do not assume how many people had forethought malicious advance intent to commit violence. that has to be proven, not assumed. >> right. >> the evidence on mr. giuliani having been in that room and then everything else is worse than against other people and i understand you're trying to speak truth. i'll tell you, ken, as we sign off, because you remind us >> you reminded us that a wink can mean someone is lying. i'll keep my eyes open when i say thanks for being here, ken friedman. >> of course. thank you for having me. >> let's fit and a break. talk about just comply and alex jones rebuked again when we come back. come back. i get bladder leaks. i didn't want to feel like i was wearing the pads i wore when i was twelve. then i tried the always discreet pads. they fit perfectly in the places they're supposed to. look how much it holds, and it still stays thin! it's the protection we deserve! panera chefs have crafted a masterpiece... and i

mr. giuliani, when you met with georgia lawmakers, did you lie to them? >> we will not talk about this until it's over. >> reporter: this was not a trip to georgia that rudy giuliani wanted to make. the man once known as america's mayor, who has defined his reputation these last few years with lies about the 2020 election, was put under oath today in this georgia courthouse, where he's the one who's suspected of trying to help steal the vote. he was called here by a special grand jury investigating claims that former president trump and his friends tried to change the election results in georgia, so that trump could win. and there's tape. while testifying before state lawmakers, jegiuliani made fals claims about election fraud, including comments that didn't sit well with election workers. >> they look like they're passing out dope, not just ballots. and it is quite clear they're stealing votes. >> reporter: he famously claimed that this video showed fulton county election workers producing suitcases of illegal ballots, charges that were investigated and p

mr. giuliani. giuliani communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers, and the public at large, in his capacity as a lawyer for president donald j. trump in the trump campaign in connection with trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020. as you will see in great detail in our hearings, president trump ignored the rulings of our nations court. he ignored his own campaign leadership, his white house staff, any republican state officials. he ignored the department of justice and the department of homeland security. president trump invested millions of dollars of campaign funds purposely spreading false information, running ads he knew were false and convincing millions of americans that the election was corrupt and that he was the true president. as you will see, this misinformation campaign provoked the violence on january 6. in our third hearing, you will see that president trump corruptly planned to replace the attorney general of the united states so the u.s. justi

as donald trump's lawyer, mr giuliani helped lead legal challenges to the outcome of the vote.atedly made false claims of widespread fraud. i'm joined now by peter bowes, the bbc�*s north america correspondent in los angeles. let's start with rudy guilani — and him being made a target of a criminal investigation? what's the significance of that? i think this is significant because we have someone who is very close to donald trump and his inner circle, his personal lawyer. now apparently being targeted himself as part of this criminal investigation and so, this is a first but not only this investigation is under way to investigate donald trump's role in trying to essentially flip the result of the 2020 election in the state of georgia which we now know was won byjoe biden, but we know that rudy giuliani himself is the focus of the investigation. we know he's due to give evidence for this be spoken to by a grand jury later this week. but we don't know is whether you'll actually answer questions or if you plead the fifth or so he doesn't incriminate himself to some of the donald t

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as donald trump's lawyer, mr giuliani helped lead legal challenges to the outcome of the vote.rica correspondent, peter bowes has been following the story and hejoins me now. let's start with the search of mr trump poss �*s house, the fir saying absolutely no we're not going to reveal details. if they did reveal the affidavit it would presumably reveal the evidence that they based their claim to search the property in the first place, the search warrant that was issued and that was revealed last week. so they are saying this will secure the integrity of the investigation and of course this is an investigation about highly sensitive documents that also plays into the decision to want to keep it under wraps at least for now. but want to keep it under wraps at least for now.— least for now. but does that not feed _ least for now. but does that not feed the _ least for now. but does that not feed the narrative - least for now. but does that i not feed the narrative coming from the trump supporters that this is a witch—hunt, they are not being open and transparent about what they ar

mr. giuliani asking mr.enting the former president. i'm surprised he isn't begging every lawyer good possible to represent him. >> so much to continue to play out. thank you so much. i appreciate you coming on. >>> all right. one of the nation's largest teacher unions calls it a crisis. how can the u.s. get more teachers into the classroom? i'll ask him coming up. nly coves with 5g. anand with coverage of over 96 of interstate highway miles, they've got us covered. i'm lindsey vonn, and ever since i retired from skiing, i've had trouble falling asleep and staying asleep. you know, insomnia. before i found quviviq, an fda-approved insomnia medication for adults. you would not believe the things i used to think about when i couldn't sleep. hey, linds. i need you to sign this business contract. all 114 pages. lindsey, lindsey!! hey, lindsey! it's workout time. hey, big man, we're in the middle of something here. yeah, it's called physical fitness. just a couple dozen more questions, lindsey. don't forget to pac

mr. giuliani had fulfilled his obligation to the agenda. so i'm glad i fulfilled my obligation. does not mean that giuliani has been left behind, especially since the inhabitants of the washington swamp have their own scores with him. they called me a russian agent. half of the dishonest anti-american intelligence agencies. they had no reason or reason to say so, and they never apologized. and who in the end told the truth, and in collusion with russia, they or we with trump, who told the truth about bribes in ukraine , they or we with trump, who told the truth about the hard drive, and did not lie, they covered this story for a year and a half, and we the chronicles were right. kyiv investigation. giuliani formed the basis of the documentary. and now, if the americans do not ban the hard drive to ukraine and corrupt practices. hunter biden, my son hunter will also watch the game picture, so it is called to play biden as a junior director. robert davi called the act. lawrence fox, he was squeezed out of the world of cinema for criticizing blm , gina carano has a similar motivatio

mr. giuliani to appear in court. ey continue to delay an in-person court appearance at this point? >> yeah, yesterday's hearing with judge robert mcbyrney was interesting. giuliani while he does have a heart condition and just recently had surgery that would make it so that it might be difficult for him to travel according to his doctors, it doesn't mean that he can't come down here to atlanta to testify. he said that it is very important that any further delays are notified to him this week. he said he is not going to be interested in giuliani's lawyers potentially proposing that another delay happens monday or tuesday of next week given that he is sis slated to testify a w from today. they are interested in making sure that there is open communication channels to say if there is any further issues that he is not going to tolerate a lack of communication or anymore explosive last minute delays or emergency motions like we saw this week. >> senator lindsey graham has said that he would fight the subpoena and denies an

mr. giuliani is not cleared for air travel.ohn madden drove all over the country in his big bus from stadium to stadium so one thing we need to explore is whether mr. giuliani can get here without jeopardizing his recovery or health, on train, bus, uber or whatever it would be. the focus seems to have been he's got to be on a plane. new york is not close to atlanta, but it's not traveling from fairbanks. >> the judge talking sense there, frank. i would also say not exhibiting a lot of sympathy for rudy's claims, bus, train, uber, john madden was a beloved fig nur america. tell us what this means that giuliani has now been named a target of the investigation and what is he now facing? >> he may be facing a midnight train to georgia, to quote lyrics from gladys knight and the pips. your lawyer being told your client is a target, it means the grand jury and prosecutors are thinking we're about to charge you. it's imminent. you are under criminal investigation and your name is in the header of the investigation. you're one of the n

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mr. giuliani could get here without jeopardizing his recovery and his health. a bus, or uber, whatever it would be. >> so you heard the judge there basically saying rudy giuliani, figure it out. if other people can figure out how to get to stadium to stadium without flying you can figure out a train or a bus. now we wait to see what rudy giuliani decides. >> not going to escape having to appear. sara murray, thank you for your reporting. so you have the january 6th committee investigation, you have the georgia investigation. those pressing forward as the justice department also moves ahead with its own separate investigations into actions involving the former president. and just hours ago, they executed a search warrant at his florida home. this is an unprecedented move. i want to get reaction from former director of national intelligence james clapper who joins us now. director clapper, talk congressional republicans are trying to frame this suearch warrant as nothing more than the weapon zaz of the justice department for political purposes. how do you see it?

mr. giuliani, when you met with georgia lawmakers, did you lie to them? >> we will not talk about this until it's over. it's a grand jury, and grand juries, as i recall are secret. >> do you believe president trump is the ultimate target of this investigation? >> i'm not going to comment. >> what are you expecting to talk about today? >> they ask the questions and we'll see. >> your attorney in new york said he can't promise how responsive you'll be. >> goodbye. >> he spoke to georgia lawmakers twice in person, once virtually to spread conspiracy theories and baseless claims about election fraud, claims we know now are not true. i asked giuliani if he was going to be cooperative. he indicated in an interview after he was a target of this cal investigation that any conversation he had with the former president is protected under attorney-client privilege. all that might be up in the air. >> let's talk about the lawyer, john eastman. he tried to get vice president pence to not certify the election. is he trying to get out of a court appearance? >> reporter:

mr. giuliani himself. >> samara, i want to shift a bit on lindsey graham.ng i find very interesting. i grew up in atlanta. fulton county is one of the most reliably democratic counties in the entire nation. it's also a county that's a majority of people of color. is there in irony in the fact that lindsey graham tried to have black votes thrown out, basically, and now faces the consequence of his actions by grand jurors that likely look like some of the people whose votes he was trying to get thrown out? how careless of a sit do you think lindsey graham in down there? >> a lot of where we've seen senator graham has been in federal court. just this week a federal district court judge him told him she would not be quashing his subpoena. he's asking for a pause in that so he can appeal had ruling up to the conservative eleventh circuit court of appeals. his lawyers are insisting he was told he was not a target of this investigation, he was merely being, you know, being asked to give testimony as as a witness to all of this. so far judges have not been willing

mr. giuliani, when you met with georgia lawmakers, did you lie to them? >> we will not talk about this until it is over. it is a grand jury and grand juries as i recall are secret. >> do you believe president trump is the ultimate target of this investigation? >> i'm not going to comment on the grand jury investigation. >> what do you think their ultimate goal is here, what are you expecting to talk about here today? >> they ask the questions and we'll see. >> that was our nick valencia you saw there questioning giuliani and here is his report from atlanta. >> reporter: cnn asked giuliani's attorney for details of his testimony but the attorney declined to comment saying that he was going to respect the secrecy of the special grand jury process. we don't know exactly what the line of questioning was, but we do know that giuliani was inside for roughly six hours. he spoke before georgia lawmakers at least three times in the wake of the 2020 election appearing twice in person and once virtually. during those appearances, he spread conspiracy theories and ba

mr. giuliani when you met with l lawmakers did you lie to them? >> we will not talk about this until it's over. a it's a grand jury and grand juries are target. >> reporter: do you think president trump is the target? >> i won't comment. >> reporter: what do you think the ultimate goal is? what do you expect to talk about? >> they ask the questions and we'll see. >> reporter: will you be corporative. your attorney in new york said he can't promise how responsive you'll be. >> good-bye. >> reporter: to remind us, giuliani spoke before the georgia lawmakers three times before the 2020 election to spread conspiracy theories and baseless claims of voter fraud, claims that have proven to be untrue but ultimately, he's here on a judge's order and how corporative he'll be is the big question. his attorney in new york indicating the d.a. is playing hardball and they know how to play hardball, too. kate? >> i guess we will see, nick, thank you very much live outside the courthouse in atlanta. we've also learned the fbi interviewed two of donald trump's for

mr. giuliani rarely asks for anything for himself. friday, january 15th or monday the 19th. the final item in her letter was general pardon. the book says the letter was intercepted before it got to trump by giuliani adviser who had been working with giuliani on attempts at finding election fraud. it's unclear if giuliani had any part in writing the letter. he has repeatedly denied that he requested a pardon from trump related to the 2020 election. hey, lawyers who work for trump do like to get paid occasionally. >>> joining us now with a look at axios a.m., the co-founder, mike allen. what is the axios 1 big thing this mine monday morning? >> happy monday to you, katty. the axios 1 big thing is trump's fbi bump. there's early data that shows the mar-a-lago raid and trump's attempt to capitalize on it are helping him as he looks ahead to the 2024 presidential election. as he looks at the field. the ultimate reality check, when you're being investigated for the espionage act, and when boxes of top secret documents have been seized from

mr. giuliani. >> chief of staff mark meadows told people that he thought trump should concede, around the time the electoral college certified the result. but nonetheless, he later worked to try to facilitate president trump's wishes. here's what cassidy hutchinson told us. >> during this period, he -- i perceived his goal with all this to keep trump in office. he had very seriously and deeply considered the allegations of voter fraud. but when he began acknowledging that maybe there wasn't enough voter fraud to overturn the election, i witnessed him start to explore potential constitutional loopholes more extensively. which i then connected with john eastman's theories. >> the startling conclusion is this. even in agreed upon, complete lack of evidence could not stop president trump, mark meadows and their allies from trying to overturn the results of a free and fair election. so, let's return to that meeting at the white house on the evening of december 18th. that, night a group showed up at the white house, including sydney powell, retired general michael flynn and former overstock.com

mr. giuliani was president trump's lead election attorney. the president's call with him lasted about four minutes. fox news was on in the dining room. let's take a look at what was airing as this call was ended. -- ending. >> there are tens of thousands, maybe 100,000 or more going to the capital or elsewhere in the city and they are very upset. i jumped down as soon as we heard the news that brett gave you. i said what do you think? an air force veteran said she was disgusted to learn that news and today it was his duty. i said there was nothing in the constitution. she said that does not matter, he should have fought for trump. >> at 1:49, here is what was happening at the capital with president trump's fired up supporters. >> it is a riot. >> what did president trump do at 1:49 as the d.c. police were declaring a right at the capital -- capitol? he tweeted out a link to his speech in which he knowingly sent an armed mob to the capital. president trump made no comment about the lawlessness and violence. i yelled to the gentleman from illin

mr. giuliani, when you met with georgia lawmakers, did you lie to them? >> we will not talk about this until it is over. it is a grand jury and grand juries as i recall are secret. >> do you believe president trump is the ultimate target of this investigation? >> i'm not going to comment on the grand jury investigation. >> what do you think their ultimate goal is here? what are you expecting to talk about here today? >> they ask the questions and we'll see. >> will you be cooperative? your attorney in new york says he can't promise how responsive you'll be? >> good-bye. >> reporter: a bit of an awkward moment for giuliani, he got here just before those doors opened in the fulton county courthouse, so he had to stand outside for a minute being peppered by questions from the media. he was just as responsive to the rest of them as he was to us. den he didn't say much. it is a full day of testimony before the special purpose grand jury. this is a significant development. he's the first person part of the former president's inner circle to be named as a target

mr. giuliani and his attorneys now know that they need to be preparing for an indictment, and, you know, i suspect that they were told that news partly to, you know, see if they were interested in cooperating, but at the very least they need to prepare for charges. >> why would prosecutors tell a target that they are the target? >> there's two reasons, alisyn, one is because they want to give you an opportunity to cooperate. in fact, there were times when i was a prosecutor where we would send a target letter to someone who didn't have an attorney basically saying you are the target of a grand jury investigation, and you should get a lawyer, and the idea being that the lawyer would encourage them to cooperate in that situation. it also, though, gives the target an opportunity to come in and try to explain why he shouldn't be charged and so on. in this context, i think it really could go either way. >> reynado, stick around, because we want to get your thoughts on our next story. >> there's now a bipartisan call for more information about the fbi's search of former president trump's home

mr. giuliani made both to the georgian house and the georgia senate could subject him to criminal liability making false statements or part of a larger conspiracy to commit election fraud or even a possible -- again, the viability of all those charges are with the da and her team are going to be looking at as they continue their investigation. >> legal experts pointed out that willis is less restricted in her accidents than merrick garland and others in washington. a lot of legal experts that i've spoken to about this believe the georgia investigation actually poses the greatest legal threat to trump. do you agree with that? >> i think that the differences between the u.s. rico statute and the georgia rico statute dua gives fani more leeway to be able to tell the full story, or a broader story, of what may have happened leading up to the january 2nd call. again, it will rely heavily on the connections or lack thereof that witnesses may make with the president to be able to build this larger sense of this really was some type of conspiracy where there was an agreement and an act by one or se