>> mr. glick, you also talked about the need for a national policy on water, which i think can be defined in different ways. mr. willardson pointed out that we're not talk about a command and control of a regulatory regime per se but more a national strategy. would you agree with that? or do you think we're looking at something else? >> i would. let me make two comments. first, as mr. willardson said and as ben franklin said many, many years ago, we learn the worth of water when the well runs dry. we tend to forget it when the well fills up again. that's part of our problem. but there is a growing awareness about water issues. and despite differences of opinion about environmental issues, the american public considers water to be the most important environmental challenge and has consistently for many many years. people care about water. you asked the first panel, do we have a national water policy. we do have a national water policy. maybe we don't think we do, but there's a dede facto national w