mr. goldberg: and up and down.harlie: he will say she supported the iraqi war, i didn't, even though i think he did. but this is what he will say. mr. goldberg: it's fascinating, because she is planning the whole time to be running against a republican hawk, jeb bush, marco, even ted cruz. and here she has a guy who is coming at her from the left. that's why there is an elegance to what she did in in this anti-trump speech. she is not arguing with him about ideology. she is arguing about basic character and mental fitness. it's a resurgence of the craziness and approach to foreign policy. obama does not believe in that, the trump does. leave everybody guessing about your intentions. this is what kissinger recommended. he would go to people and say, i don't know, the president is a little crazy. he would use that in a negotiating way. president obama doesn't believe in that approach. donald trump, to the extent he has a defined foreign policy, believes that projecting unpredictability is in america's interest. donal

mr. goldberg writes frequently on foreign affairs for the atlantic magazine. may people are saying this very well be a decisive factor change moment. jeffrey goldberg: i agree. where shee moment went on the offense. she pivoted first of all to the general election. bernie sanders was not a character that speech. there was only one character that speech. it was a pivot to the general election. a pivot to the offense. it was the introduction are almost the introduction of the new strategy. what i mean by that is the following. it's a foreign policy speech. in a foreign policy speech in a presidential campaign it is

mr. goldberg writes frequently on foreign affairs for the atlantic magazine.e saying this very well be a decisive factor change moment. jeffrey goldberg: i agree. where shee moment went on

mr. goldberg: i agree.

mr. goldberg: i agree. she has pivoted, first of all, to the general. bernie sanders was not a character in that speech. it was a pivot to the general, a pivot to the offense, and an introduction of a new strategy. what i mean by that is the following. it was a foreign-policy speech. in a foreign-policy speech in a , it'sential campaign usually done through the prism of you are too liberal, you are too conservative, this candidate this oneterventionist, is too isolationist. this was very different. this was, i am sane and my opponent is insane. it was done almost in a psychiatric way rather than a policy way. present you,let me please, with a psychological profile. he does this, this, and this. more of at was psychiatric profile than an analysis of his policy. and what she did cleverly was to say i cannot really critique his policies because he has no policies. they shift. his ideas are not coherent in the way you are used to hearing from politicians. also, by the way, there is no record. has never practiced foreign-policy or national security policy, w

mr. goldberg joins us now from miami. what's your beef?a fascinating exchange because what it shows us is how they turned what should have been a discussion about islamic terrorism into their favorite discussion. gun control. after chuck todd asked tom brokaw should it matter what kind of terrorism it was, what chuck was actually saying is, so many people are dead, does it really matter if it was this kind of terrorism or that kind? sort of reminiscent of hillary clinton saying, you know, at that hearing what difference does it make? >> yeah, the benghazi thing? >> yeah. so then, tom brokaw not only says no it shouldn't matter, which i found fascinating, which then goes on to say the real problem is guns. and then he says, you've got a problem, you get a gun. that's what goes on now. and it's got to come to an end. okay? so instead of a fresh, original, edgy discussion about why so many muslims, a small percentage but a lot of muslims become psychopathic killers, we have the same old conversation -- >> it gets worse than that. if tom broka

mrs. clinton's problems. bernie bold goldberg thoughts upcoming. closing the stage this afternoon for auditions? what's on that piece of paper? oh, miss maroney, your forehead! should not be doing anything. i just had botox. i know exactly what's happening! ah! whoa! this is a bad streaming experience. "the girlie show" is a real fun lady show. (vo) don't let bad streaming ruin a good show. don't look at me! (vo) only verizon has the largest, most reliable 4g lte network. can your network say that? switch now, buy two samsung phones and get a free tv, plus up to $650 back. only on america's best network. >>> impact segment tonight. more propaganda from the far left concerning radical muslim terrorism. >> you are seven times more likely to be killed by a white wing extremist, racist or antigovernment nut job. seven times more likely to be killed by that person than a muslim. if a christian shoots somebody we don't say a christian shot them. if a muslim shoots somebody we say a muslim shot them. i think that's starting to muddy the

bring in jonah goldberg, "national review" senior editor and fox news contributor kristen haglund and emily shyer, buckle editor. there is so much talk about building a talk and the things that mrump has said but made a very interesting point and said that president obama is more concerned about his anger at him instead of worrying about the security of our nation. does donald trump have a point? does that help him? >> i think it's a perfectly good political talking point, and it is absolutely true. i'm no fan of donald trump's and no fan of barack obama's, it's absolutely true when obama talks about donald trump, it's monotone, he doesn't like to use terrorism or radical terrorism, just by the optics of the tantrum yesterday, he clearly trump is in his head under his skin, it's a bad move for the president. he's handing an issue to trump. cheryl: kirsten, most importantly, governor rick scott of florida saying he never received a phone call from president obama. yet george w. bush, the former president reached out to governor scott to offer the families condolences and president obama speaked to francois hollande in france but doesn't call rick scott where. is the focus on ter