mr. goldstein has complied with all of the code and guidelines and provisions including the example given in the guidelines. it is hard to think of an example that would be more pertinent to this particular matter, a coffee, truck or a coffee sale is not the same as a dine , or someone who has a full menu. there were very few sites, he applied to the only sites that he could find in the entire district that would not require or in cringe on any code or guideline requirement. we don't feel that this appeal or this permit would be opening the flood gates to a huge number of permits. this is something that he and his reliance on the city policy as it stands now. did apply for and received. there was a mention of the second coffee truck, he does have a coffee truck currently not far away, he invested financial sums as part of his permit process for the last 14 months. it is not two additional trucks, it is one truck that would go between two locations. so he would be on the street for a total of 12 hours a week and he would be on front street or in front of 150 california for a total of 8 hou

please under your name goldstein, and mr. brian and mr. fung and hurtado and lazarus, don't let this occur on your shift. i am looking at you and watching you. and we are watching you. and when it's wrong it's wrong. you can shove it under the carpet for only so long. and when the truth comes out, it will have your names on it. we are a small group but we do a lot of work and we deserve what we have been working for all of these years. we are getting older, we have nothing else to fall back o please honor this industry including myself. >> thank you, any other public comment? vice president fung do you hear to hear from mr. gruberg again. >> yes, i have questions for you if no other public comment. >> any other public comment? >> please come forward. >> hi, i am patricia lovelock, i am here for another item. but this taxi issues are familiar to me. for years i was a member of the coordinating council for the paratransit executive committee. we work extremely closely with the taxi services. i met many drivers, and i was head of a committee

other side first. >> good afternoon, vice president fung and board members, executive director goldstein and mr. brian. i am the director of the taxi and accessible services. i am here on behalf of director risk who wanted to be here but is unfortunately out of town. as stated in his october 12 letter to your director, this issue of jurisdiction is a legal matter about my board's legislative authority. we have appealed to the authority than filing our brief. however this is a critical policy decision from our perspective. the transportation board of directors is transportation management. this is our responsibility as the city's transportation authority to regulate over the taxi industry. in a manner that results in better transportation to the public. this includes decisions about whether to create a new class of permits. this is most emphatically not the grant or denial of a permit. this a creation of a new class of permit. how much to issue, and the issuance of these permits and maintaining the transportation is best addressed in the board legislative authority. we hope that the board will k

mr. gruberg. >> i wanted to clarify the point that executive goldstein made, that we are anticipating our board and hearing and hope finalize the memorandum of understanding for the review of individual permit decisions. we hope to finalize that and take it to the board for the november meeting. we asked for the department of transportation to hold off for the provision in the transportation code. that was the legislative change that mark gruberg was eluding to. but it's been clearly stated by the board that don't want the board of supervisors to take action until we have this memorandum of understanding of process. >> commissioners unless you have other questions. the matter is submitted. and mr. gruberg, i am happy to give you my copy of that letter. >> commissioners? >> well, i think i would like mr. gruberg to have an opportunity to review the letter. if he hasn't seen it. and make any comments. if he would like to. >> okay, the letter didn't say that much. >> i would have comments about that letter myself. >> i believe that mr. gruberg represents your side of the issues. >> he doesn't repr