mr. golnick, you were nodding your head? mr. golnick: we saw this a lot at forge, where -- what is the old saying, you have seen one v.a., you have seen one v.a.? unfortunately like i mentioned, some v.a. mc's head grade educational community care. others didn't. when that ambiguity came in that is where people started, unfortunately what happened with your husband, you're getting into those things and it is not necessarily something that is standardized across the system. that is the bigger issue. chair moran: my impression is that often the treatment at the v.a., if you remain there for the kind of treatment you need for the circumstances that charlie and mr. golnick needed, is often opioid prescription. is that true? mr. golnick: senator, in some cases, right? in some cases it is. a lot of it can be severely persistent mental illness. but, yes, that is a lot of times the case. chair moran: i don't know whether i have made my question clear. there are programs that do not involve opioid treatment, that the v.a.'s tendency is to