mr. gonzalez, he indicated that mr. thompson's property is not even under consideration anymore. well, the fact is that there is not a route that exists. so here we are giving approval to allow keystone xl pipeline to be constructed without nebraska doing its basic due diligence and giving us a route. so this question will be revisited immediately after nebraska decides the route that it wants this pipeline to travel. so that's the essence of our problem here. >> the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from texas, mr. barton. >> mr. chairman, i just want to give congressman terry the opportunity to respond if he wishes to. >> i'm sorry. i was being briefed. >> i just want to give you the opportunity to respond to the prior question. >> sure. thanks to due diligence of great staff here. the specific statute of nebraska is 57101. and it does state specifically petroleum pipelines. it's stated in the statute. and so there is a specific process that is spelled out, as i mentioned, through state statute. and those things -- those things are important. i have two points that i

mr. gonzalez votes no. mr. insly votes no. ms. baldwin. mr. ross. mr. ross votes aye. mr. mathisson votes aye. mr. butterfield votes no. mr. barrow. mr. barrow votes aye. miss matsui votes no. mr. christianson votes no. ms. castor votes no. chairman upton. >> votes aye. >> wishing to cast a vote? seeing none, the clerk will report the tally. >> on that vote, 33 ayes and 20 nays. >> the ayes have it and the bill is favorably recorded. without objection, staff is authorized to make technical and changes to the bill approved by the committee today. so ordered the chair thanks all members and staff and committee stands adjourned. >> per as committee members make their way from the chamber, you can see the house hearing in its entirety at c-span.org. the white house coverage continues as caucuses are taking place in colorado and minnesota. there is also a primary election in missouri. those contests are non-binding meaning no delegates are being awarded. maine is continuing their caucus. join us at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span for results. presidential candidate speeches. you ca

mr. gonzalez for five minutes. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman, and welcome to the witnesses, and we had a witness from ferc, the way i recall his testimony was, one, they weren't really equipped to do it. two, the timeline imposed by this particular bill, 3548, was not realistic, and i believe what you provide and what you bring to the equation, building this pipeline safely, is invaluable and essential and i don't believe that this bill is the best method of accomplishing the building out of the keystone pipeline which i support. i just don't think this is the way to do it. my greater fear, and we're going to have some other witnesses that may address some other implication, and that is unrealistic expectations of what this pipeline is going to provide this countries. i'm going to do this as briefly as i can. first of all, when it comes to price. fuel prices reduces economic growth. at a very, very sensitive time in this country. high gas price rees deuce economic growth in this country in 2012 by 0.5%. when we know that total growth f

mr. gonzalez, is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank the witnesses. i'm going to agree with my colleague that if you're exporting fuels because it's refined product from obviously what we received from canada, exporting is good. balance of trade creates jobs and such. the real question then comes as to how you refine it. i just want to remind my colleagues on the other side of the aisle that we attempted to make sure that we did it in a more cleaner fashion and more safe fashion and that they oppose this every step of the way. now we were able to get a bill out of the house that we never had been able to conclude that. so i'm hoping that they recognize the necessity of safe and clean refining industry in this country and the way that we can accomplish and meet all of the demands of this country. general, again, thank you for your service, first of all. thank you for being here today. thank you, mr. thompson. it's good to hear from you. i understand what you're saying. i'm going to agree with you. this is my fear. i'm for

mr. gonzalez. >> thank you mr. chairman. i think mr.i understands his amendment isn't going to pass, but it is instructive and gets into a real debate and maybe it is economic heresy that supply isn't going to determine price, and that is the reality. i've already indicated to increase domestic production, i indicated i am for the keystone so we still have the producers in north america as opposed to the middle east. ai understand that concept and it is an important one. but i have members on the other side depicting the oil industry much like it was depicted in the movie giant with elizabeth taylor and james dean. it's changed. it's totally different. what i'm hearing over there might never been in the oil and gas business but if transcanada is producing the oil are we saying that they are going to put it into the pipeline and then make some end user wherever it is going to be stored or whatever my understanding is they will have contracts early on obligating a certain portion of that to whoever is the highest bidder based on the globa

mr. gonzalez, he indicated that mr. thompson's property is not even under consideration any more.is there is not a route that exists, all right? so here we are giving approval to allow keystone xl pipeline to be constructed without nebraska basic due diligence and giving us the route. this question will be revisited it immediately after nebraska besides the route they want this pipeline to travel. that is the essence of our problem. >> the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from texas, mr. bart. >> i just want to give congressman terry the opportunity to respond, if he wishes to? >> i'm sorry, i was being briefed. >> i want to give you that i pretended to respond to the prior question. >> sure. thanks to the due diligence of a great staff, but the specific statute of nebraska, 57101, states specifically petroleum pipelines, as stated in the statutes. so there is a specific process that is spelled out through state statute. those things are important. two points i want to make mr. rush's points. one is the reason why their risk this kind of catchall is you have one landown

mr. gonzalez, for five minutes. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. welcome to the witnesses. we had a witness from ferc, and the way i recall his testimony was, one, they weren't really equipped to do it, two, the time hawaiian that's being imposed by this particular bill, 3548, was not realistic. and i believe what you proprovide and what you bring to the equation of building this pipeline safely is invaluable and essential, and i don't believe that this bill is the best method of accomplishing the bill being out of the keystone pipeline which i support. i just don't think this is the way to do it. my greater fear, and we're going to have some other witnesses that may address some other implications, and that is unrealistic expectations of what this pipeline is going to provide this country. i'm going to do this as briefly as i can. first of all, when it comes to price. fuel prices reduces economic growth at a very, very sensitive time in this country. high gas prices reduced economic growth in this country in 2012 by 0.5% when we know for total growth for the year we're loo

mr. gonzalez for five minutes. >> the way i recall his testimony is that they weren't really acquited do it, and the timeline is being imposed by this particular bill 35-48 is not realistic. i believe that what you provide and what you bring to the equation of building this pipeline safely is invaluable and essential. i don't believe that this bill is the best method for accomplishing the bill of the keystone pipeline which i support. i just don't think this is the way to do it. my greater fear, and we may have witnesses that address other implications, unrealistic expectations of what this pipeline is going to provide this country. i am going to do this as briefly as i can. when it comes to price, if your prices reduces economic growth. high gas prices reduced economic growth in this country in 2012 by 0.5%. we know that total growth for the year, we're looking at about 2%. that is what we are telling the american public, i wish we had a hearing that would really explore the impact on price. eventually it will be our constituents that will be dumbfounded when we complete the pipeline an