mr. goodlad, is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. general holder, both the criminal division head, lanny brewer, and his deputy, jason weinstein, had knowledge that the atf let a bunch of guns walk and some were recovered in mexico. all related to the fast and furious scandal. in a prior operation, when they reviewed the february 4th, 2011, letter that falsely denied that they knowingly allowed the sale of the weapons to a straw purchaser who transported them to mexico, do you think it's a serious offense for an individual to mislead the congress? >> first with regard to the question, i think you got it a little off there. the two individuals you talk about, mr. weinstein, mr. brewer, did not know about the tactics used in fast and furious until the beginning of last y r year. >> they did acknowledge, quote, atf let a bunch of guns walk, and quote, some were recovered in mexico, end quote. >> that was in connection i believe with operation wide receiver. >> correct. >> that occurred in the prior administration. >> correct. they did n