mr. goodman about foreign agent -- >> mr. rothenberger, can the russians run a digital ad that tells you to call your congressman and tell them not to support sending american guns to the ukraine? >> mr. chairman, i'm not an expert on that, so i cannot answer that question. >> mr. vanderwalker, do you have an opinion on either one of those three scenarios that i just brought up? >> you know, so one of the things that could get at that is the political file requirement. which would, again, not be prohibition, but -- >> so let me ask you, is there some piece of law, court case, that regulates whether the russian government could buy an ad on print, broadcast, or digital that says, call your congressman and tell them to not send guns to ukraine. >> not that i'm aware. >> and just for the record, i'm supportive of sending guns to the ukraine. i just want to make that clear. >> right. i mean, it could be an election hearing communication if it were 60 days within an election and mentioned to someone running for re-election. >> mr.

mr. goodman about foreign agent -- >> mr. rothenberger, can the russians run a digital ad that tells you to call your congressman and tell them not to support sending american guns to the ukraine? >> mr. chairman, i'm not an expert on that, so i cannot answer that question. >> mr. vandewalker, do you have an opinion on either one of those three scenarios that i just brought up? >> you know, so one of the things that could get at that is the political file requirement. which would, again, not be prohibition, but -- >> so let me ask you, is there some piece of law, court case, that regulates whether the russian government could buy an ad on print, broadcast, or digital that says, call your congressman and tell them to not send guns to ukraine. >> not that i'm aware. >> and just for the record, i'm supportive of sending guns to the ukraine. i just want to make that clear. >> right. i mean, it could be an election hearing communication if it were 60 days within an election and mentioned to someone running for re-election. >> mr.

mr. goodman. >> i agree it doesn't matter the medium under the court's precedents. to the extent speech can be regulate 3 under those -- regulated under those case, it doesn't matter how you say it. >> yes as to free advocacy. >> my first amendment expert, mr. dickerson. >> [inaudible] >> microphone, please, mr. dickerson? >> i'll learn that eventually. yes as regards, as it involves platforms with a caveat which is that, you know, the amount of money that is being regulated is important. the fact that it is cheaper to run an ad in some media versus another doesn't change the burdens on the speaker and their resources in complying with the regulatory regime. so if we're talking apples to apples, certainly. >> so if somebody, you know, coming from the great state of texas where i'm in the only competitive district in the state, i'm very familiar with all of the political advertisements that may or may not be run against me. if somebody's running ads against me, there's a public file. is that correc

mr. goodman. you are now recognized for five minutes. >> members of the committee, thank you for the honor to testify today. i would like to get straight to the point. throughout my eve o of an year tenure the active bureau has always stood for greater transparency and disclosure in the digital advertising supply chain. regardless whether they are political or commercial because we believe transparency and disclosure are necessary for the consumer safety so we strongly support efforts by the congress and federal election commission to clarify, reconcile and strengthened the disclosures required in the party's candidates and campaigns. but, as a representative of the economy's fastest growing sector, i also believe that our industry itself can go even further to implement supply chain protections that would fortify the trustworthiness of the digital advertising and the media and political advertising and commercial advertising alike. there's a proven track record of taking and implementing responsi

mr. goodman, you're now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, good afternoon, mr. chairman, ranking member kelly and members of the subcommittee. my name is jack goodman. i'm pleased to present testimony on political advertising. although i have decades of experience working with broadcast stations on political advertising, i do not appear today on behalf of any present or former client. and the views i express are entirely my own. broadcasters have long been considered america's most trusted source of news. far more than any other medium, broadcast news involving politics is subject to detailed regulations. this affects what ads the station must accept, information about sponsors they must obtain and disclose to the public and the prices they charge for political ads. in my experience, stations take their compliance efforts very seriously. the fcc's political broadcasting staff is exceptionally helpful, but even experienced broadcasters and their counsel frequently encounter questions as to which no clear answer exists. disclaimer as i will refer to it, information

catalonia implying that he wants to rescue it from its president mr huge amount that he did not mr goodman did not give the announcement that people were expecting today so how do people in catalonia feel now. i think it's bad to say that both those who are in favor of independence and those who are against it actually have something in common today both a walking away from today's developments feeling probably slightly disappointed pro independence supporters who had really expected pushing on to declare independence today there were thousands of people on the streets in the square behind me saying that they wanted just that the mood was was really quite bitter among the people son who was standing behind me some were even chanting traitor referring to preach among some real anger on the other side those who are against independence may well have been hoping that he would call regional elections today the hope being that it would deescalate what is becoming an increasingly tense situation an increasingly tense situation and that leads us then to tomorrow and the weekend the central govern

offices of jack goodman. mr. randall rothenberg, and mr. ian vanderwalker. welcome to you all. and pursuant to committee laws, all witnesses will be sworn in before you testify. please rise and raise your right hand. do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you god? thank you. let the record reflect that all witnesses answered in the affirmative. in order to allow time for discussion, please limit your opening testimony to five minutes. and your entire written statement will be made part of the record. i appreciate your statements, it was helpful in better understanding these issues. for those who are looking for

mr. goodman on this too. law has long recognized that broadcasting is different -- >> scarcity of the airwaves, held to the public trust. i'm an old radio guy. >> right. so with that as a known exception, platform-agnosticism makes sense, yes. >> all right. so let's talk a little bit about there's a difference in the way that ads are placed. there's been a lot about, you know, who's buying these ads and the disclosures. typically in the newspaper you actually probably talk to a salesman or talk to somebody on the phone. if you're going to buy something on an online platform, it's typically done online. let's say i'm boris or natasha from moscow and have a pile of rubles i've converted into american dollars. i go buy a cash card visa, rent a post office box, and ain't nobody going to know i'm a foreign national. do you see that as a problem? >> yeah. well, as i said in my testimony -- and it's not necessarily a popular point of view across my entire industry -- every company should know to some degree of comfo

mr. goodman. >> can the russians run a digital and that tells you to call your congressman and tell them not to support sending american guns to the ukraine. >> i'm not an expert on the come i cannot answer that question. >> to you have an opinion on either one of those scenarios i just brought up? >> one of the things i could get at that is the political file requirement that the prohibition. >> is there a piece of law, court case, that regulates whether the russian government combine and print, broadcast, or digital that says, call your congressman and tell them to not send guns to the ukraine. >> not that i'm aware. >> and just for the record i'm supportive of sending guns to ukraine. i just want to make that clear. >> right. mr. dickerson, your opinion. >> i'm pleased to look at the for an education act race because it is a political file. it's a law that requires any -- a very low dollar thresholds to be filed with the department of justice, to have physical copies of the ad and have it disclosure on the front of the scene is being paid for by a foreign government. the tragedy of th

mrs. pence. >> [applause] v.p. pence: senator heller, senator cortez masto, mayor goodman, state and local officials, pastor hatch, people of las vegas, my fellow americans -- my wife karen and i are honored to be with you for this las vegas unity prayer walk. we are grateful to each of you, and we are grateful to the inspiration of your former deputy fire chief, kevin chapman. kevin, thank you for loving the people of this community the way you do. >> [applause] v.p. pence: president trump personally asked us to be here to stand with you, to pray with you for strength, comfort, and healing in the wake of sunday night's horrific attack here in las vegas. in america, we mourn with those who mourn, we grieve with those who grieve. i stand with you on behalf of my family and every family in america to say we are with you. today we are all vegas strong. >> [applause] v.p. pence: as the president often says, when one part of america hurts, we all heard. when one part of america struggles, we all struggle. and when one part of america cries out for help, we always come together to answer the call. five days ago, america

mr. sheahan we are going to take a moment and listen to the vice president in las vegas. >> distinguished members of congress mayor goodman. state and local officials, pastor hatch. people of las vegas, my fellow americans, my wife karen and i are honored to be with you for this las vegas unity prayer walk. we're grateful to each of you and we're grateful to the inspiration of your former deputy fire chief kevin chapman. kevin, thank you for loving the people of this community. >> yes. >> way you do. [applause] president trump personally asked us to be here to stand with you, to pray with you, for strength, comfort and healing in the wake of sunday night's horrific attack here in las vegas. in america, we mourn with those who mourn, we grieve with those who grieve, and i stand before you today on behalf of my family and every family in america to say we are with you. today we are all vegas strong. [applause] as the president often says when one part of america hurts, we all hurt. when one part of america struggles, we all struggle. and when one part of america cries out for help, we always come together. to answer the cal