mr. gordon. any other public comment? seeing none, i believe public comment is closed. supervisor chu: given that, we will close public comment. colleagues, the item is before us. supervisor kim: i actually just had some questions. i am sorry i did not ask them before public comment, but i want folks to be able to speak. i understand this is one-time did not want to clarify, is it a 607 $5,000 credit per job? for just one year? supervisor kim: it is one time per offender, and it is a two- year cycle. supervisor kim: so one company, if they hired three ex offenders, they would get three payroll exclusions for $675,000 each? supervisor mirkarimi: it would be a $10,000 tax credit. supervisor kim: for each fte. find the second year they hire three more, with a get it again? supervisor mirkarimi: $10,000 per offender just once in a two- year cycle. supervisor kim: so they would only be eligible one of the years. ok. i just wanted to say that i really do appreciate this. i know i district 6, their many ex offenders that have challenges to employment, and i think that it is im

mr. gordon earlier that i was going to hit you up about the federal reserve, which you served on the regional board. >> the regional board. >> and i had a couple questions. one is what you think people ought to understand about the federal reserve. there's a lot of talk about making it more open. two is were you surprised at all by the secret loans that they were making to the bank? and three what do you think of them helping out the europeans? >> that's three questions. first, the thing that i encourage people to understand about the federal reserve is that right now they have a dual mandate and they shouldn't. they are supposed to contain and manage inflation in order to help keep the dollar sound. secondly, they also have a mandate which was passed by congress back in the 1970s to try and control unemployment. you can't hit two targets with one arrow. the only arrow they have is money supply. so i believe that the dual mandate should be reduced back down its original mandate that it had prior to the 1970s. now, when i was on the federal reserve board in the 1990s, we weren't faced with the

for the last two years their focus has been, and mrs. gordon heddell talking, more internal than external. so under ideal circumstances, they would've been focusing outward turning great work, doing lots of audits that very experienced and good leadership. they've had to focus inward to correct management decisions pleasing vulnerability. that's partially a result of this backlog and nodded. >> and my understanding is they been participating and spending a lot of money and resources. if that expenditure gone up, help me understand what's happening with the actual auditors themselves because you have been appropriated my money. >> absolutely. i've been a fortune organization and in the last three to four years, the dod office of inspector general has flushed up $787 million, mr. chairman. i doubt that any other ig can say that. congress has been very supportive of me. and for that matter, so has the department of defense. >> have you been spending my money? >> know, the problem there is that the budget -- the $87 million that i have received hav

mr. gordon made it a diminished possibility talking. he said that we are full speed ahead.ources. getting out of this race for better or for worse, one of the options that you are assessing right now. >> it is an option. we were not slowing down. we were keeping all commitments. we are reassessing several factors. this adjustment that we were not going to put the brakes on until we made a decision. family, supporters, fund- raising, and our strategy. >> there is a meeting downtown. >> reporters are surely support of. >> if your wife asked you to get out, would to get out? >> yes. my wife would not ask me to get out. she would not ask me to get out. i will make a decision based upon how all of this stuff has affected her. >> there is a period of time where we should work. i guess you have a conference. >> we have a grand opening of our georgia headquarters on saturday. >> to not try to pin me down. i do have my own timetable. i do have my own timetable. >> what other factors will force you out of that raise ta-- race? >> family is number one. it was good to answer be kept re

mr. chairman for having this hearing. >> thank you. members will have an additional seven days to submit steegmans for the record. the honorable gordon as the department of defense inspector general. ambassador is the department of state deputy inspector general. mr. michael carroll is the usaid acting and inspector general. the honorable stuart bolin is the special lens victor general for the iraqi reconstruction and mr. stephen trent is the acting special inspector general for the afghan reconstruction. pursuant to the committee will call witnesses will be sworn in before they testify. please rise and raise your right hand. >> do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give will be the truth >> thank you pivotal the record reflect the witness is answered in the affirmative. in order to allow proper time for discussion, we are going to ask that each member of the panel limit their verbal comments to five minutes. you're entire statement will be inserted into the record. i will now recognize the honorable mr. hadel for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman, good morning. good morning, ranking member tierney and

for the last two years their focus has been, and mrs. gordon heddell talking, more internal than external. so under ideal circumstances, they would've been focusing outward turning great work, doing lots of audits that very experienced and good leadership. they've had to focus inward to correct management decisions pleasing vulnerability. that's partially a result of this backlog and nodded. >> and my understanding is they been participating and spending a lot of money and resources. if that expenditure gone up, help me understand what's happening with the actual auditors themselves because you have been appropriated my money. >> absolutely. i've been a fortune organization and in the last three to four years, the dod office of inspector general has flushed up $787 million, mr. chairman. i doubt that any other ig can say that. congress has been very supportive of me. and for that matter, so has the department of defense. >> have you been spending my money? >> know, the problem there is that the budget -- the $87 million that i have received hav

for the last two years their focus has been, and mrs. gordonheddell talking, more internal than external. so under ideal circumstances, they would've been focusing outward turning great work, doing lots of audits that very experienced and good leadership. they've had to focus inward to correct management decisions pleasing vulnerability. that's partially a result of this backlog and nodded. >> and my understanding is they been participating and spending a lot of money and resources. if that expenditure gone up, help me understand what's happening with the actual auditors themselves because you have been appropriated my money. >> absolutely. i've been a fortune organization and in the last three to four years, the dod office of inspector general has flushed up $787 million, mr. chairman. i doubt that any other ig can say that. congress has been very supportive of me. and for that matter, so has the department of defense. >> have you been spending my money? >> know, the problem there is that the budget -- the $87 million that i have received have

mr. gordon made -- he diminished that possibility in sending me an e-mail and talking to some of the other media, saying "we are full speed ahead. people are looking too much into this. we are looking at interviews we do and how we allocate resources." is getting out of this race, for better or worse, fairly or unfairly, one of the options that you are assessing right now? >> yes. it is an option. what j. d. was trying to say, and i concur, we are not slowing down. we are keeping all the commitments and reassessing several factors. getting out is an option to. that just meant that we were not going to put the brakes on until we made a decision. that is what we are assessing. family, supporters, fund- raisers, and our strategy. >> you had a big meeting last night downtown with your supporters. >> the supporters are extremely supportive. >> if your wife asks you to get out, are you out? >> yes, but my wife would not ask me to get out. my wife would not ask me to get out. i would make a decision based upon how all of this stuff has affected her. i will put her first. but she is not the type t

gordon. and in talking to them, they both just say -- they are even more gentler than what the -- mr. cain is saying. they are saying we are not -- gordon is saying we are not going to pull out of the race, just reassessing really how we are going to go forward with our strat jand we are not even thinking about pulling out of the race. herman cain actually is saying i'm not sure i'm going to be in it. i asked him earlier tonight if he was going to unveil the third leg of his policy. he is supposed to be unveiling -- he did his 9-9-9 plan, which is the economy and foreign policy on mon day and the energy plan. and i asked if he would do the energy plan next week answered said he is not sure a lot defended with the conversation with his wife. kay part, i want you to be the jury as we listen to cain's answer on fox news about why he was give this woman money. let's listen to this. >> you did give her money over the years and that raised questions -- a basic one, why? >> well, neil, over the years, because i have been successful, i have helped many people financially. i have helped people

mr. crone prepared a detailed memorandum concerning the gordon taylor case which sent mr. mylar in may 2008? >> mr. crone prepared a memorandum that was substantially narrow and didn't raise certain things to the memorandum and that is a critical point --. estimate the figure was on the 24th of may. >> was prepared by mr. crone who in advance of the meeting. >> i don't know that i would assume that is the case and some of the things in that memorandum were discussed with me in the conversation with crone and mr. mylar on the tenth of june, so that is a yes. >> would you say the memorandum acknowledges the documents recently and that a lowercase had widespread criminality and were in crone's words faithful to your case and that your position was very perilous? >> mr. crone did use those words around the evidence being signaled to our case. but again at no point in that memorandum was it mentioned for example widespread criminality with respect to the phone hacking and those crucial details from the leading counsel of the opinion that had been left out in that memorandum of

mrs. johnson told the judge she didn't know about her husband's criminal activity. chris gordon has the report. >> reporter: leslie johnson came to court seeking probation rather than a prison sentence. she told the judge i am sorry and ashamed of my conduct on november 12, 2010. i take full responsibility for my actions that day and sincerely regret the impact it's had on my family and the community. >> there's a little box and in the box there's a check. tear it up or chew it up. >> reporter: she panicked trying to help her husband without thinking. destroying a check for $100,000 and trying to conceal $79,600 in her underwear. she called it a single act asking for probation saying i did not know anything about the criminal conduct that my husband engaged in prior to november 12, 2010. the federal judge believes mrs. johnson knew that she was dealing with tainted money and that she tried to conceal it. with that, he sentenced her to 12 months and a day, making her eligible for release in ten months. mrs. johnson had many supporters at the courthouse. >> there was no evidence t

gordon, and thank you, mr. speaker. i yield back my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from north carolina rise? >> permission to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. butterfield: i want i want to bring attention to a silent epidemic growing our midst. the growing prices and steep decline in household incomes is now the shocking rate of food insecurity and hunger. according to usda, there are 46 million americans surviving on food stamps while congress considers reductions to food stamp funding, the usda predicts the number of people requiring food assistance will substantially increase. last week in my district in north carolina, which ranks second in the country for food and security, i greeted thousands of people outside the wilson and other food distribution centers to collect bags of food for the television holiday. ing mr. to help remedy the challenges to food security, i introduce h r. 34

gordon -- going rogue stuff. >> don't impose your personal feelings on me and the people of rhode island. >> maybe mr.fee has a heart that's two sizes too small. >> his heart was two sizes too small. >> why is he trying to take christ out of christmas? >> that's a good question. >> for me it's a christmas tree but if other folks are more comfortable with holiday tree that's fine with me. >> i think religion is trouble. >> and you are a minister? >> yeah. >> you go out and you buy a christmas tree. you wish your family and friends a merry christmas. >> ho ho ho. >> what holiday are they celebrating? >> christmas and kwanzaa and hanukkah. >> it's a kwanzaa tree? >> sure. >> happy christmas kwanzaa and payingen pagan too. >> put on your -- time for hanukkah. >> it's not a holiday tree it's a christmas tree. >> are you offended to be calling it a hole at a tree. >> absolutely 100%. >> those christian also have to duke it out with the governor. >> if there is anyone who know what is christmas is all about? >> how many people have we burned at the stake in this country based on quote unquote religious ideal

mr. el-haribi, 500 lashes and a year for so-called blasphemy. then joe gordon2 years simply for speaking out against the king of thailand, who by the way is 84 and the longest reigning monarch in the world. >> you can say anything about anybody in this country almost and get away with. unfortunately, some people don't need to be talking, it seems. still, you have the right to say what you want to say. >> that's what the stories make us realize and appreciate what we have. please don't say anything you feel like, especially not today. >> nadia with the "morning passport." always a pleasure. we'll see you again shortly. >>> a shoplifter confessing and returning the money 30 years after the crime. we asked you to weigh in this morning on some of your confessions. right here, it's a sunday. go head, confess. sharkybradshaw saying, "i'd like to confess that i think i have a little crush on gary tuchman." stay with us. he'd yet to hear of mutual funds, iras, or annuities. back then, he had something more important to do. he wasn't focused on his future but fortunatel

mr. ambassador, you don't sound like you buy the official state-run media explanation that he died during fatigue from a train ride. >> absolutely, after years of consumption of expensive cognac. >> gordonhang still with us as well, the author of a wonderful book, i understand you feel bad and the ambassador kind of touched on this a moment ago, china is going to try to influence what happens next. >> yes. well, the chinese have already wanted to base their troops in north korea. and those discussions really haven't gone too far. but if the beijing sees that north korea is starting to fracture and fragment, that authority is disintegrating, we can see chinese troops moving south to the border to restore order. that puts us, perhaps, in conflict with china. if north korea then at that point commits some provocation, there very well may be chinese troops facing american troops on the korean peninsula. >> ambassador john bolton, do you think that's a real possibility? >> well, i think it is a real possibility. i think our objective and we have planned for this is to try and find those nuclear weapons. you've got several risks there, number one, that military commanders might use those weap

if you informed your father that you authorized payments to gordon taylor as a result of him being a victim of a crime? >> the settlement with mr. taylor and happy to address that matter in some detail if you'd like. my father became aware after the settlement was made in 2009, i believe after the confidential settlement had become public and the newspaper reported on the out of court settlement afterwards, but please understand that the settlement they out of court, and out of court settlement of the civil claim of that nature and with that -- of that quantum is something that normally in a company our size, the responsible executives in the territory of the country would be authorized to make, and that's the way the company function # and below approval thresholds to go to my father. >> there are other questions asking specific questions about the issue. i'll go back to your father, if i can. mr. murdoch, at what point do you find out criminality was endeemic at -- endemic at news of the world? >> "endemic" is a very wide ranging word, and i also had to be careful not to prejudice the cause of justice that is taking place now

gordon taylor was? >> i don't recall if i knew he'd he was beforehand, but mr. myler would have told me spirit did you ask any meeting who the hell is this gordon taylor? >> i don't recall if i asked. i recall being aware of it at the time. what it was prior or maybe where any meaning who mr. taylor was i don't recall spent do you know what he did for a living? >> i was told. as i just said to you to be clear, i don't know if i had a lot of knowledge about mr. taylor's role. >> the one thing that really, that really showed us and i think any 10 year old that the "news of the world" line did not stand up with the fact according to was not a member of the royal family or the royal household. so did you not say well he is not royal? >> i think the point here is not so much whether or not i was told gordon taylor was, but really what, you know, when i came to news corporation in 2007, what didn't happen was, i did not receive a briefing on all the matters in 2006, december 2007 i was aware that the editor had resigned over these things, taepodong to jail, one of them