i want to ask mr. gould, first of all, because in the bao -- gao testimony they said interior collected lower levels of revenue, in other words, you, your organization, collected lower levels of revenue from all but 11 of 104 oil and gas resource owners including states and other countries. do you agree with the gao's assessment of the u.s. government take of oil and bass revenue -- gas revenue compared to other countries, and can you give us a feel for the kind of revenue loss that the taxpayers are bearing? and can we rectify that? >> very good question. and, actually, we are working very closely with blm on the government take issue. in fact, they have a study ongoing right now that we are a part of. i think when we get the results of that study, i think we'll all be ready to do what we need to do to implement it. but until that study is done, i don't think we're in a position to, uni, know -- you know, what type of revenue structure is the best. >> mr. gould, before you move it over to mr. bromwich -- >>

i want to continue to focus on mr. gould and -- because mr. bromwich you were doing other things for the public interest while the stuff was going on. what is the situation with regard to the royalty free deep water oil and gas leases in the gulf of mexico and i am sure you must have must have had some opinion on the discussion that has taken place from the floor and in press conferences and mr. markey certainly, he has aloud enough voice to reach your ears i think that the billions of dollars in revenue that is being foregone that should be going to the taxpayers because of what can only be described -- well, what has been described as a screw-up on the part of the professionals in this area when they put together the contract. we tried to delve into it. they say well, it was one person's responsibility. that person said it was their responsibility. the fact is that this is a situation where the contract that was made when the oil was very cheap was supposed to yield appropriate revenues to the federal government when the price of oil went up

i want to continue to focus on mr. gould because mr. brown which, you were doing other things for the public interest while this stuff was going on. what's the situation with regard to the royalty free leases in the gulf of mexico, and sure, you must have had some opinion on the discussion that has taken place on the floor and in press conferences and mr. markey certainly he has enough voice to reach our years, i would think this billions of dollars in revenue that is being forgone should be going to the taxpayers because of what can only be described -- what has been described as a screw up on the part of the professionals in this area when they put together the contract. we try to delve into it. they say it was one person's responsibility, it was their responsibility. the fact is this is a situation where the contract made when oil was very cheap was supposed to yield appropriate revenue to the federal government when the price of oil went up the price went up and they tried to collect and said wait a minute, the staff messed up and w

mr. gould, 29 years -- over the past five years your audit and compliance per and collected 110 million from companies that under report and the gao told us in this excellent hearing the chairman simpson called that really you just take the numbers that the companies give you so you can deal that with the fh ho but in fact they get on time reporting because they need to know what the value of their inventory is but you are less interested with the implication. so you would think that the federal government might invest in more careful auditing on the industry. and the irs, for every dollar we spend on program integrity going after people who it looks like they haven't paid their fair share we collect $10. of one to ten is a good ratio. do you know the ratio is another words if we put more money into more careful auditing of the oil and gas industry would it be more revenue to the taxpayer? >> yes it does come and actually our compliance program historic plea averages one to four. >> so every do