mr. gowdy: thank you, mr. speaker. i'd like to thank the distinguished chairman of oversight for his graciousness and leadership. mr. speaker, we have found consensus. sweet, elusive consesssuss, we found it. not in the final committee vote. that would be too much to ask. not even in the testimony of the witnesses who came before the subcommittee, but we found consensus among the members them selves. one after the other after the other who testified as to the power and the magic of education to transform not just their lives but generations of lives. i spoke with a distinguished member from the other side of the aisle, a gentleman that i happen to like and respect very much and is one of the most powerful speakers in this body, and i will not call his name because the conversation was not public, but he recalled for me the day he was sworn into office. and how his father came to him with tears streaming down his face. and some of the tears were the tears that only a father can have who is delig

. >> very good questions, mr. gowdy. i had a couple of those on my mind. back to the archivist. to ensure everyone we did have the situation. talked about twisting a history the question of access that a president would have as we had with the berger case with some of his aides. and i think you said you have put in places as many protections as you can, but you can't absolutely garn the tee. is that the case? >> that one was actually relatively easy to address in that those kinds of records, presidential records when they're being reviewed or used by a member of an administration will be done in a skiff, a protected area. and with someone watching, you know. that's -- >> well, again, we need to make certain that we have as many protections in place that are gowdy and altmire are intentioned to -- i think the other question of the dors. there's a lot of popularity for a president when they're in office and as they're leaving office, they have a lot of supporters and then it drops off. it's a lot harder. but i think the conclusion reshed by everyone was, again, the transparency to