. >> mr. gowdy from south carolina is recognized for five minutes. >> mr.etween cost of energy and economic recovery? >> yes, there is. particularly when there is a supply side element, which there appears to be, given some reductions in available supply and tensions in iran and so on. higher energy prices create at least short-term inflation pressures and moreover they are -- they act as a tax on household purchasing power and reduced consumption spending and that also is a drag on the economy. so, yes, higher oil prices, higher energy prices are a concern. >> i think the price per gallon in europe is about double, if not more, than what it is in the united states. >> yes, because of much higher taxes. >> so can you imagine any scenario under which someone would advocate for boosting our price per gallon to european levels? >> well, there are a lot of policy issues related to that. >> i mean an economic reason, not environmental, economic. >> well, the question is whether or not there are other goals that are served, environmental goals, congestion goals a