mr. gowdy: thank you. professor ramirez, you mentioned a couple of cases in your opening statement and i know time is short when you only have five minutes and you were not able to address other cases. i wanted to ask you whether or not you were familiar with a few other cases. sandy rogers and scottie richardson from akin, south carolina, you familiar with that case? ms. ramirez: no, sir. mr. gowdy: how about roger day o' rice from ryan, south carolina, are you familiar with that case? ms. rahr: -- ms. ramirez: no, sir. mr. gowdy: russ sorrow from greenville, south carolina? ms. ramirez: no, sir. mr. gowdy: or kevin carper from spartanburg, south carolina? ms. ramirez: no, sir. mr. gowdy: professor, those are just a handful of the more than 340 police officers who were killed in the line of duty in south carolina. and kevin carper's case is most instructive because his partner did c.p.r. on the suspect that killed kevin trying to save his life. let me ask you another way. are you familiar with

mr. gowdy, for five minutes. mr. gowdy: thank you. professor ramirez, you mentioned a couple of cases in your opening statement and i know time is short when you only have five minutes and you were not able to address other cases. i wanted to ask you whether or not you were familiar with a few other cases. sandy rogers and scottie richardson from akin, south carolina, you familiar with that case? ms. ramirez: no, sir. mr. gowdy: how about roger day o' rice from ryan, south carolina, are you familiar with that case? ms. rahr: -- ms. ramirez: no, sir. mr. gowdy: russ sorrow from greenville, south carolina? ms. ramirez: no, sir. mr. gowdy: or kevin carper from spartanburg, south carolina? ms. ramirez: no, sir. mr. gowdy: professor those are just a handful of the more than 340 police officers who were killed in the line of duty in south carolina. and kevin carper's case is most instructive because his partner did c.p.r. on the suspect that killed kevin trying to save his life. let me ask you anothe

. >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from south carolina, mr. gowdyve minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. professor ramirez, you mentioned a couple of cases in your opening statement. and i know that time is short when you only have five minutes and you were not able to address other cases. i wanted to ask you whether or not you were familiar with a few other cases. sandy rogers and scotty richardson from akin, south carolina. are you familiar with that case? >> no, sir. >> how about roger dale rice from lauren, south carolina? are you familiar with that case? >> no, sir. >> eric nicholson or marcus whitfield from greenville, south carolina? are you familiar with that case? >> no, sir. >> russ sorrow from greenville, south carolina. >> no, sir. >> or kevin carper from spartanburg, south carolina. >> no, sir. >> professor, those are just a handful of the more than 340 police officers who were killed in the line of duty in south carolina. in kevin carper's case it's most instructive because his partner did cpr on the suspect that killed kevin, trying t

s and mr. gowdy mentioned recusal. recusal is up to the d.a. and in the recommendations of the president's task force, there were recommendations that we have an independent prosecutor. congressman clay and i have introduced a bill that requires states to adopt independent prosecutor laws or face a cut in burn jag funding. this would present a solution. is part of the reason that the problem exists is that perception, is that part of the reason why you think it's important to have an independent prosecutor? because the perception the public has there's not independent analysis of the cases and independent determination of who should be prosecuted? ms. ramirez: yes, sir, it's primarily a matter of perception because i believe that prosecutors across the country try to do the best that they can and exercise a the best judgment. but there -- because of this inherent conflict there may be the perception in the eye of the public that this was not a fair and full hearing. mr. cohen: the d.a.'s main witnesses are always police. ms. ramirez: correct. m

mr. gowdy's investigation is public knowledge.he has good legal grounds for getting a warrant or subpoena, he ought to go to court and use those grounds. secret courts have as little as possible to do. inherently, it is a compromise against due process. you do not want secret courts. you only have it because the world of anti-terrorism, not everything can be public. host: clarkston washington. milton. caller: hello? host: go ahead with your comment or question. caller: mr. democrat nadler. good morning to you. i am calling from the republican line. guest: fine. caller: i respect you people with all my heart, mind and soul. the question is you've got a democratic commander in chief in your office and he leans on the republican party. he does a good job. i'm well pleased with him. it is you people, you democrats. i need you to support your president. guest: i suppose i will answer the question the way any other member of congress would. some will be more accurate than others. i support the president when i agree with them and i do n

mr. gowdy had wanted mrs. clinton to testify twice. she said once.t looks like may 18 will push because of what is going on here. john is in mississippi. what is your view on george stephanopoulos's contribution? caller: i think it is not a conflict of interest. host: why not? why do you not think it is a conflict? caller: i think it is not a conflict. as the caller said, donald trump donated $1000. you think there is a conflict of interest with him? that -- everybody donates money to everybody. that means everybody has a conflict of interest. everyone has a political party they want. they are right. there is nobody -- one more thing. about what george stephanopoulos two. what about bill o'reilly? he did the same thing. no one is talking about it. host: john in all of ranch mississippi. this is "the hill." mcconnell file short-term nsa build. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell open the door to a short-term authorization of intelligence powers, increasing the state in the congressional battle over the patriot act. read -- the legislation would ren

mr. gutierrez. >> thank you so much, chairman gowdy. i want to thank the witnesses for making their perezations s presentations this morning. i met with a group of young people from the phoenix military academy. white youth, hispanic youth, black youth. military academy the best of the best. have a conversation everybody. we should have some of those people. i think, with all due respect to everybody here we're a little too old to be having this conversation among ourselves about the problems the police are encountering with young people. i would suggest that next time we invite some of the young people. the bright dynamic young people. you know what they're doing to tell you, sheriff clarke? they're going to tell you, i listened to the young black colonel telling me he learned to de-escalate when he is confront 1k3d come by the police officer. this wonderful brilliant young man, dedicated to the country, has to talk about de-escalating. he doesn't see the police as a source of protection. he sees it as somebody he has to learn -- the p

mr. radcliffe: i see my time is expired. i yield back. >> thank you so much, chairman gowdy. i would like to talk just a little bit. i met with a group of young people from the phoenix military academy in the city of chicago. white youth. spanish youth. black youth. military academy. these are the best of the best. have a conversation, everybody. we should have some of those people. i think with all due respect to everybody here, we're a little too old to be having this conversation among ourselves about the problems that the police are encountering with young people. i would suggest next time we invite some those young people. you know what they are going to tell you sheriff clarke? they are going to say i listened to a young black man tell me that he has learned how to deescalate when he is confronted and comes into an exchange with a police officer. that just brought tears to my eyes that this wonderful brilliant young man dedicated to his country, graduated from his class has to talk about deescalating. he doesn't see the police as a sort of protection. he sees it as somebody that he has to learn -- the police