>> well, you know, first of all, lindsay graham does not speak for the conservative. i can't speak for mr. beck. i don't even see his television program. so i can't judge -- but, if you're a conservative, and because you're not strictly a republican, you're looking at those republicans who fight for conservative principles and conservative causes, and what's going on in congress if there are congressmen that conservatives like to see done. lindsay graham is not one of those people, not one of the fighters of the united states congress. he can speak for the republican party, that's fine. he doesn't speak for conservatives. >> i say good for libbed see graham, i've known him for a number of years, a man of principle, as is terry, i've known him for a number of years. the debate gets polluted by falsehoods like beck saying lindsay hatsz my guts, he doesn't hate his guts. but that's how beck makes money, he's a showman, it's unfortunate the national debate gets polluted by show business, and distortions like death panels that don't exist. but these become issues, and it gets people scared. an