mr. gray's appeal for a medical, both officers assessed mr. gray's condition and at no point did either of them restrain mr. gray per bpd general order, nor did they render a request for medical assistance. while discussing the transportation of mr. gray for medical attention, a request for additional units was made for an an rest on west north avenue. officer porter left the vicinity to assist in the arrest of another prisoner at north avenue. despite mr. gray's obvious and recognized need for medical assistance officer goodison in a grossly negligent manner chose to respond to the 1600 block of west north avenue with mr. gray still unsecured by a seat belt in the wagon without rendering to or summoning medical assistance from mr. gray. officer goodison arrived at north avenue to transport the individual arrested at the location of north avenue and pennsylvania avenue at which time he was again met by officer nero miller porter and lieutenant rice. the wagon arrived officer goodison walked to the back of the wagon and again opened the doors to the wagon to make observation of mr. grey. sergeant alicia white

mr. grey's condition. mr. gray at that time requested help and indicated that he could not breathe. officer ported asked mr. grayf he needed a medic, at which time mr. gray indicated at least twice that he was in need of a medic. the officers physically assisted mr. gray from the floor of the van to the bench. however, despite appeal for a medic, both officers assessed mr. gray's condition and at no point did either restrain mr. gray per general order nor did they render a request medical assistance. while discussing the transportation of mr. gray request for additional units was made for arrest at the 1600 west north avenue. officer porter left the vicinity of doll if tin street to assist in the arrest of another prisoner. despite mr. gray's obvious and recognized need for medical assistance officer goodison and a grossly negligent manner chose to respond to the 1600 block of west north avenue with mr. gray still unsecured by a seat belt in the wagon without rendering too or summoning medical assistance. officer goodison arrived at north avenue to transport the individual arrested at the location of north avenu

mr. freddie carlos gray jr. having made eye contact with mr. gray mr. gray subsequently ran from lieutenant rice. officers miller and nero then handcuffed mr. gray and moved him to a location a few feet away from his surrendering location. mr. gray was then placed in a prone position with his arms handcuffed behind his back. it was at this time that mr. gray indicated that he could not breathe and requested an inhaler to no avail. officers miller and nero then placed mr. gray in a seated position and subsequently found a knife clipped to the inside of his pants pocket. the blade of the knife was folded into the handle. the knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under maryland law. these officers subsequently removed the knife and placed it on the sidewalk. mr. gray was then placed back down on his stomach at which time mr. gray began to flail his legs and scream as officer miller placed mr. gray in a restraining technique known as a leg lace. while another officer physically held him down against his will until a bpd wagon arrived to transport mr. gray. the officers failed to establish probable

gray, junior. having made eye contact with mr. gray mr. gray subsequently ran from lieutenant rice. lieutenant rice then dispatched over departmental radio that he was involved in a foot pursuit at which time bike patrol officers miller and nero also began pursuing mr. gray. mr. gray surrendered to officers miller and nero. officers miller and nero then hand cuftd mr. grayhandcuffed mr. glai gray, placed in a prone position, with his hands behind i his back, he indicated he could not breathe and requested his inhaler to no avail. officers miller and nero then put mr. gray in a seated position and subsequently found a knife clipped to the inside of his pants pocket. the blade of the knife was folded into the handle. the knife was 92nd switch blade and is lawful under maryland law. these officers subsequently removed the knife and placed it on the sidewalk. mr. gray was then placed back down on his stomach at which time mr. gray began to flail his legs and scream as officer miller placed mr. gray in a restraining technique known as a leg length, while officer miller held him down again

mr. gray's appeal for a medic, both officers assessed mr. gray's condition and at no point did either of them restrain mr. gray per bpd general order or render or request medical assistancep. while discussing the transportation of mr. gray for medical attention a request for additional units was made for an arrest at the 1600 west north avenue. officer porter left the vicinity of dolphin street and druid hill avenue to assist in the arrest of another prisoner at north avenue. despite mr. gray's obvious and recognized need for medical assistance, officer goodson in a grossly negligent manner chose to respond to the 1600 block of west north avenue with mr. gray still unsecured by a seat belt in the wagon without rendering to or summonsing medical assistance for mr. gray. officer goodson arrived at north avenue to transport the individual arrested at the location of north avenue and pennsylvania avenue a at which time he was again met by officer nero, miller, porter and lieutenant rice. once the wagon arrived, officer goodson walked to the back of the wagon and again opened the doors to the wagon to make obse

mr. freddie carlos gray jr. having made eye contact with mr. gray mr. gray subsequently ran from lieutenant rice. eutenant rice then dispatched over departmental radio that he was involved in a foot pursuit at which time bike patrol officers miller and narrow began to pursue mr. gray. having come in contact with pursuing officers mr. gray surrendered to officers in the vicinity of the 1700 block of pressberry street. mr. gray was handcuffed and moved to a location a few feet from his surrendering position. he was placed in a prone position with his arms handcuffed behind his back. it was at this time that mr. gray indicated that he could not breathe and requested an inhaler to no avail. officers miller and narrow then placed mr. gray in a seated position and found a knife clipped to the inside of his pant's pocket. the blade of the knife was folded into the handle. the knife was not a switchblade and is buffalo underlawful under maryland law. mr. gray was placed back down on his stomach at which time mr. gray began to flail his legs and scream as officer miller placed mr. gray in a restraining tec

gray. by the time officer zachary novak and another officer attempted to remove mr. gray from the wagon, mr. grayally called to the scene whereupon arrival the medic determined mr. gray was in cardiac arrest and was critically and severely injured. mr. gray was rushed to the university of maryland shock trauma, where he underwent surgery. on april 19th 2015 mr. gray succumbed to his injuries and was pronounced dead. the manner of death deemed a homicide by the maryland state medical examiner is believed to be the result of a fatal injury that occurred while mr. gray was unrestrained by a seat belt in the custody of the baltimore police department wagon. all events occurred in baltimore city, state of maryland. while each of these officers are presumed innocent until proven guilty we have brought the following charges. officer caesar goodson is being charged with second-degree depraved heart murder involuntary manslaughter second-degree negligent assault, manslaughter by vehicle by means of gross negligence manslaughter by vehicle by means of criminal negligence misconduct in office failure to sec

mr. gray mr. gray. he wasn't responsive. >> chris hayes spoke to the reporter holding the microphone in the interview in. the speculation is leading to another big question. >> the question i would have of the van driver at that stop is why did you make that stop? did you make that stop because you heard something in the back of the van that maybe indicated to you that something has gone wrong because the next thing he does is drive a little bit further and stop again and call for other officers coming and check on his prisoner and the police commanders have said at that point there should have been a call for the a medic and there wasn't. i think the new stop if i were zg right questions and i am in this case, my question would be does that indicate that at that point that van driver knew that something was wrong? >> after arriving at the station, gray was taken to a hospital where he underwent spinal surgery and later died. we are hearing more the testimony in the movie massacre trial out of colorado.

mr. gray, mr. gray. he wasn't responsive. >> last night msnbc's chris hayes spoke with wbal's jayne miller in light of a revelation that a previously unreported stop by the van was made. all of that is leading to another big question. >> reporter: the question i would have of the van driver at that stop is why did you make that stop? did you make that stop because you heard something in the back of the van that maybe indicated something had gone wrong. the next thing he does is drive a little further and stop again and call for other officers to come and, quote, check on his prisoner. the police commanders have said at that point there should have been a call for a medic and there wasn't. i think that new stop we're talking about, if i were asking the right questions, and i am in this case, my question would be does that indicate that at that point that van driver knew something was wrong? >>> we are also hearing more dramatic testimony in the movie theater massacre trial out of colorado. in court yester

mr. gray was completely unfortunate. but at no point did any officers intentionally set out that morning to -- while they are doing their job to at any point hurt mr. gray. mr. gray's death of the result of mr. gray and that's it. it's not from the wagon man. it's not from the shift lt. who is out there doing drug work or two officers chasing people through the most drug infested violent neighborhood in this city. putting at that moment they started doing it. >> it's. >> go ahead sir, go ahead. >> no, guilty. >> if you were to be identified by your department, what would happen? >> i mean, i would face a possible termination. >> you would be fired you think? >> i believe so. >> but you feel so compelled to speak out because you feel this is such an injustice? >> it's a big -- i mean, i came into that interview thinking there has got to be justice. but after that the lack of justice that was done to this department today i turn on the news see our mayor who on monday night refused to even acknowledge that there were 20 officers hurt and in hospitals deferred to someone else to speak about it. >> there is now 100 people. i want to thank you sir for sharing yo

mr. gray, he couldn't have seen mr. gray. i asked him -- i think we aired the whole thing. i asked him did you hear him say anything? he didn't hear him say anything. we have reported that at that time when mr. allen is loaded on to the van at that stop, that by that time according to our sources, mr. gray was unresponsive. a couple of minutes later when they get to the western district, he has no pulse. that doesn't come from just mr. allen, that comes also from our own reporting. what we have reported is that paramedics were able to get a pulse back by the time they got him to shock trauma. obviously he was in very bad shape. >> i'm sorry, i want to stress that because the timeline here is confusing. i thought he was mistaken when he said they said he doesn't have a pulse but he really doesn't have a pulse when he gets to the western district. >> reporter: that's correct. i say he was unresponsive when they finally got there and i say finally got there. there was some confusion about the way the call went out. the paramedics thought they were going for a broken arm, not a non-breathing person. that's a really significant difference. this is an injury similar to the christopher reeves inju

gray. >> mr. gray asked for help and indicated he could not breathe. the officer porter asked mr. gray if he needed a medic and mr. gray indicated at least twice that he was in need of a medic. >> reporter: mosby said they did not call a medic and failed to seat belt gray. the van's driver decided to move on. at the fourth stop they picked up donte allen who was put on the other side of the metal partition. >> the only thing i heard was banging. i tho was banging his head or something. >> mosby said he was again neglected. >> porter and white observed him unresponsive on the floor of the wagon. >> but 25 minutes later when they received the police station that a medic was called. at that point he was in cardiac arrest and not breathing. the medical skaum inner decided it was a homicide. >> he was handcuffed and shackled by his feet and unrestrained inside of the bpd wagon. >> all six officers are facing criminal charges including assault and misconduct and the van driver is carrying a charge that could carry a sentence of up to 30 years. and some of the officers say this was a rush to

gray was not breaking the law when the officers picked him up. >> officer nero failed to establish probable cause for mr. gray's arrest as no crime had been committed by mr. gray. >> no officer injured mr. gray caused harm to mr. gray and they are truly saddened by his death. these officers did nothing wrong. >> officer nero is not charged with murder but he could face prison time for the assault and misconduct charges. his form are fire chief in south jersey spoke to us and said nero was an outstanding and dedicated firefighter with a clean record and no problems. >> last night in philadelphia a few dozen protesters made their way through center city chanting "black lives matter." the march was peaceful and there were no arrests. >> next on "nbc10news today, ringing in a royal birth. we'll have details on the little princess just ahead. >>> welcome back this morning. we started out cool this morning. looking at the beaches, a little cooler there today. temperatures probably staying put in the upper 50s to lower 60s there. 52 in philadelphia 50 in allentown, 40s in lancaster, mount holly 46 46 degrees in millville. by lunchtime we'll see the temperature really

mr. gray. mr. gray's death was a homicide which we received today has led us to believe that we have probable cause to file criminal charges. leon: those were the words and the voice of marilyn mosby the baltimore state's attorney this morning announcing that it's been determined that freddie gray's death, rather was a homicide and six officers will be facing charges in the wake of it. and after that announcement was made let me show you a chopper shot here that shows you what's been happening around baltimore all day ever since that announcement came up this morning around 10:30. people have been breaking off into celebrations. we're seeing some location -- celebrations downtown around city hall where we are right now, close to that spot at the c.v.s. that everyone has been watching since monday night here. we've seen here crowds coming and going and celebrations and horns honking the whole time. and let me tell you something, a second ago we saw one of the craziest scenes the only reason why traffic was ever stopped in this street on west north avenue was when a bail bondsman's truck pulled up and in the back of the pickup truck they had boxes and boxes of these white t-shirts that say "i bleed baltimore" on them. all right. people mobbed this truck and i can't tell you how many folks i'm seeing wearing these shirts. i asked a lady who was one of those that jumped in the back of the truck to tell me what that meant to her. it means the same thing it means to everybody else here. it means i will live and die for baltimore. emotions are running so high. besides that fact everybody being excited about the announcement that the police officers will be in a position where they face charges for what happened. there's no disillusionment here. folks here are convinced this is really just the very beginning. they think there's still a process to be played out but they are now more hopeful than they have been at the beginning of all of this on monday night. now, this is the way things are shaping up here in baltimore. there's been reaction to what's happening here from all across the country and joce sterman is standing by in the newsroom where she's been watching and monitoring all the activity on social media. what have you been seeing? joce: we're seeing all kinds of things and social media having a big impact. this is posted 30 minutes ago as the crowds headed through downtown baltimore to arrive at city hall for what many are calling a victory celebration. but we're also seeing lots of other things. we want to show you and hit the rewind button from five hours ago when that announcement was made about these officers. joy about that decision. and we're seeing a lot of people posting their messages about baltimore. #i love baltimore. #all lives matter. people talking about freddie gray putting him in the same category as eric garner and trayvon martin as they try to get this message out. this featuring marilyn mosby comparing her to olivia pope the fixer we know from "scandal" solving many people's problems. the reactions today on social media were loud very colorful and as you mentioned leon this t-shirt this "i bleed baltimore" pops up in multiple potentially hundreds of social media images that we saw today, many of them featuring people in those neighborhoods. strong statements coming out, the mixture of the national guard and people in the city of baltimore. talking about how this just begins the changes they need to see in this city moving forward. the communication between officers and the citizens and leon, as you mentioned, this is the scene at pennsylvania and north avenue shortly after that announcement. it has continued all afternoon honking, people going through in celebration right where you are. leon. leon: that's right, joce. we are right smack dab in the middle of all this. and as you mentioned, the social media reaction as of a moment ago, as we were reporting, someone walked up to me to tell me what they've been seeing and hearing earlier today and he told me that he was very, very glad that the announcement was made today because he said there had been rumors more and more rumors circulateing among a lot of the young people here in this part of town that if something wasn't done today, there was going to be an explosion tonight. there had been talks here about them believing that the process was being deliberately slowed down. and that was building -- that was causing frustrations here to build up even more. but as you can see now instead of tensions being built up we're seeing something of a release happening here in west baltimore. we'll be here to cover it all throughout the night. we'll have more coverage for you just ahead here on abc 7 news. alison and scott, back to you in washington. alison: ok. see you in a few minutes. thank you very much. coming up at 4:00 fears of a possible serial shooter. targeting drivers. hear from one woman who survived a recent incident. scott: and now developments in the scandal known as bridgegate. how it could threaten the future political care >> it's a shock. it's a shock and it's troubling and it's bothersome and going to be a touch night of sleep tonight. reporter: pleading guilty in court today, david wilestein admitting that it led to the george washington bridge lane closures in september of 2013 causing a major traffic gridlock and his attorney adding christie knew all about it. >> mr. christie knew of the lane closures while they were occurring and evidence exists to establish that. reporter: for now, christie has not been charged and at an event earlier this week, he said he's innocent. >> i didn't think this has much to do with me. reporter: meanwhile, two others the chief of staff and former port authority executive stand accused of lying, calling the closures part of a traffic study. >> traffic study story was a sham. a total fabrication that baroni kelly and wilestein created to use to cover up their scheme. reporter: for now prosecutors say while their work is ongoing, at this time they do not expect to charge anyone else to which christie responded in a statement "the charges make it clear what i have said from day one is true that i had no knowledge or involvement." in new york, i'm elizabeth hur for abc 7 news. scott: more continuing coverage from the scene in baltimore coming up in a moment. stay with us. our coverage of "city when you own a small busine

gray struggling to breathe twice asked for a medic. >> mr. gray at that time requested help and indicated that he could not breathe. officer porter asked mr. gray if he needed a medic, at which time mr. gray indicated at least twice that he was in need of a medic. >> reporter: by the fourth stop where officers picked up another prisoner, the prosecutor says gray was unresponsive. >> despite mr. gray's seriously deteriorating medical condition, no medical assistance was rendered or summoned for mr. gray at that time by any officer. >> reporter: exactly 45 minutes after gray's arrest, she says, the van arrived at the western district police station and a medic was finally called. no longer breathing and suffering cardiac arrest, gray was taken to the university of maryland shock trauma center where he died one week later. the six officers including a lieutenant and a sergeant are all accused of assault and misconduct, four are also charged with involuntary manslaughter, three with false imprisonment. and facing the most serious charges, including second-degree murder, the police van's driver officer goodson jr. who could face 63 years in prison i

gray's arrest as no crime had been committed by mr. gray. accordingly, lieutenants rice officer miller and officer narrow illegally arrested mr. gray. >> she went on to say that upon arrival the medic determined that mr. gray was now in cardiac arrest. let me play more of how she described freddie gray died in police custody. >> upon arrival, the medic determined mr. gray was now in cardiac arrest and was critically and severely injured. mr. gray was rushed to the university of maryland shock trauma where he underwent surgery. on april 19th 2015 mr. gray succumbed to his injuries and was pronounced dead. the manner of death deemed a homicide by the maryland state medical examiner is believed to be the result of a fatal injury that occurred while mr. gray was unrestrained by a seat belt in the custody of the baltimore police department wagon. >> let me get more reaction to this breaking news. with us now councilman brandon scott of the baltimore city council. thank you so much for joining us again. let me get your reaction six officers warrants out for their arrest and have been charged in connection with the death freddie gray. >>

mr. gray. lieutenant rice officer miller and officer nero failed to establish probable cause for mr. gray's arrest as no crime had been committed by mr. gray. accordingly, lieutenant rice officer miller and officer nero illegally arrested mr. gray. >> all right. let's bring in jane miller from our baltimore affiliate wbal. jane, thanks for taking a few minutes tonight. to start on that if you would, the question of the timing of the speed. all of the indications we were getting as recently as last night is this is not something that's going to be coming today, maybe something that won't be coming any time soon and then all of a sudden this morning the police report comes back and now we have the charges being filed. what accounts for that quick speed? do we have a sense of that? >> well the state's attorney office been conducting its own investigation since april 12th and april 13th when the injury to freddie gray occur, so while there was a police investigation, and that was very much part of what the state's attorney did today. there was also an independent investigation, more independent investigation by the state's attorney offic

gray in the incident for which he died after carrying a small knife. prosecutors sale narrow was as no crime had been committed by mr. gray. >> so officer injured mr. gray caused harm to mr. gray and are treule addened by but he still faces prison time for assault and misconduct. we were told he was an outstanding and dedicated firefighter with a clean record and no problems. >> we'll be pushing out breaking news updates and alerts to your smartphoneor tablet through the nbcsn news app. oh, the anticipation or anxiety, i'm feeling a little. >> we're just a little bit more than 24 hours away from race day. you can watch the run frrs start to fin. we'll have live team coverage at 8:00 in the morning. >> and major developments in the jersey bridge scandal. three key players are facing indictment. one has pleaded guilty and another insists she is innocent. we'll tell you what happens next. there's over two hundred thousand students in philadelphia. jim kenney and tony williams are fighting over public schools versus charters. i think they're both wrong...it's making sure they all get a good education. teachers should have their contracts respected. they als

mr. gray mr. grayjayne joining us from outside baltimore city hall. a lot of moving parts here. the young man we just heard from -- >> welcome to our world. >> exactly. but how does he fit into the investigation? what is your gut? >> well, not my gut, but clearly defense lawyers will seize on him if this comes to a civil or criminal matter because he says, oh, i heard him hitting his head in the van so they will say, see, that's how this injury occurred. we have reported very consistently for more than a week that this case focuses on how that injury occurred inside that vap becausen. the autopsy does say there is no other injury. there is no bruising, no broken bones, nothing to suggest that the injury occurred outside the van during that initial arrest and most importantly as it pertains to donte allen the man you just heard from, there is no evidence of medical injury to suggest he beat his head against the van. you would need shall kindome kind of bruising, et cetera. so he's significant in two way

mr. gray. >> reporter: several blocks later, the driver stopped for a third time and three other officers arrived to check on gray. >> mr. gray at that time requested help. and indicated that he could not breathe. officer porter asked mr. gray if he need add medic, at which time mr. gray indicated, at least twice, that he was in need of a medic. >> reporter: mosby says the officers did not call a medic, and once again failed to seat belt gray. the van's driver decided to move on. at this fourth stop donte allen put on the other side of a metal partition. >> the only thing i heard, little banging. i thought someone was over there banging his head or something. >> reporter: modesby says gray was once again neglected. >> sargent alicia white, officer porter and officer goodson observed mr. gray unresponsive on the floor of the wagon. >> reporter: but it wasn't until 25 minutes later when the van reached the police station that a medic was called. at that point, she says gray was in cardiac arrest and not breathing. the medical examiner and prosecutor concluded gray's death was a homicide. >> mr. gray suffered a severe and critical neck injury as a result of being handcuffed shackled by his feet and unrestrained inside of

gray statement that he couldn't breathe and request for an inhaler. >> no medical assistance was provided for mr. gray by any police officer. >> the statement by the police union backed the officers. >> no officer injured mr. gray, caused harm to mr. gray and they are truly saddened by his death. these officers did nothing wrong. >> reporter: the union is also calling for a special progression curiosity to be appointed just like in ferguson, a floation rejected by mosby. freddy gray's family spoke out about the charge. >> we thank the state's attorney and her team for their unprecedented courage and their measured and professional response to this crisis. however, we must be mindful that this is a first step, not the last. >> president obama reacted to news of the charges saying the issue is a top priority for his administration. >> what i think the people of baltimore want more than anything else is the truth. that's what people around the country expect. >> but baltimore's mayor had a message for her city's police officers. >> to those of you who wish to engage in brutality misconduct, racism and corruption, let me be clear: there is no place in the baltimore city police department for you. >> reporter: long

gray for carrying a small knife. >> officer nero failed to establish probable cause for mr. gray's arrest as no crime had been committed by mr. gray. >> no officer caused injury to mr. gray and they are truly saddened by his death. those officers did nothing wrong. >> his form are fire chief in south jersey tells nbc 10 he was an outstanding and dedicated firefighter with a clean record and no problem. >> last night in philadelphia a few dozen protesters made their way through the city chanting "black lives matter." they were peaceful and there were no arrests. in seattle several police officers were injured after mayday protests turned violent. mayday is traditionally a time to rally for workers deaths. police say the demonstration turned into a riot and people were seen throwing bricks and carrying sticks. two officers were seriously hurt. no word on their conditions this morning. police did make several arrests. >> the man accused of shooting two pennsylvania state troops are and killing one of them wants the judge to order the prosecutor to stop using his name and picture in campaign materials. he asked that the district attor

gray's arrest. listen to this. >> okay. >> these officers subsequently removed the knife and place it had on the sidewalk. mr. gray was then placed back down on his stomach at which time mr. gray began to flail his legs and scream as officer miller placed mr. gray in a restraining technique known as a leg lace. while officer nero physically held him down against his will until a bpd wagon arrived to transport mr. gray. >> major, what is a leg lace and is that normal to be used? >> well it's normal to be -- first of all, leg lace is when someone is laying on their belly, and you bring their legs up behind them and cross them and apply pressure forcing those legs down to the buttocks area and that's how you control their legs. that's only used when someone is combative. but, again, you have to have a reason for restraining him. you have to have a reason for placing cuffs on him and arresting him in the first place, and like it has been stated over and over again, there was no probable cause for that arrested. the knife had been removed, and i want to say something about that knife. there is no mistake. you can't misidentify a knife as being a switchblade if you're a police offic

mr. gray at that time requested help and indicated that he could not breathe. officer porter asked mr. gray if he needed a medic at which time mr. gray indicated at least twice that he was in need of a medic. officer porter then physically assisted mr. gray from the floor of the van to the bench. however despite mr. gray's appeal for a medic, both officers assessed mr. gray's condition and at no point did either of them restrain mr. gray per pbd general order nor did they render a request medical assistance assistance. >> reporter: the state's attorney is saying that these officers were grossly negligent. this is the reason for the second degree homicide charges that they're all seeing here. she's also saying though she just got the report from the police department yesterday, she and her team had been investigating this case thoroughly themselves, working she said around the clock, interviewing witnesses, looking at police interviews and coming up with the decision on what they were going to do saying again that when she got that report from the medical examiner's office it solidified what she and her team had already seen thr

mr. gray caused harm to mr. gray and they're truly saddened by his death. these officers did nothing wrong. >> reporter: officer nero did post a quarter million dollar bail. his next court date in baltimore is at the end of the month. live in washington township nbc 10 news. >>> the protesters took to the streets of baltimore again tonight. more than a thousand demonstrators marching from the inner har bower to the city jail and then to the neighborhood where officers arrested freddie gray. they called for the release of protesters who were arrested earlier this week. people stuck in traffic honked their horns and waved in support of those marching. >>> here at home a few doesen protesters made their way through center city tonight chanting black lives mat per. at times they stopped traffic. police did not arrest anyone. >>> new at 11:00 police say a case of road rage ended in gun fire if bucks county. it happened in york road this afternoon in an area near several schools. witnesses reported a man in a black nissan maxima driving aggressively. police say t

mr. gray caused harm to mr. gray and they are truly saddened by his death. these officers did nothing wrong. >> reporter: hundreds rallied outside baltimore city hall say say -- this is just the start of their fight for justice. >> this will not stop until police are hind bars. all six officers were released after posting bond. abc news baltimore. >> he will we'll continue to update the arrest and protest at 6abc.com. you can continue to follow photos of philly is baltimore rally at 6abc.com. >>> a philadelphia police officer fired a shot while pursuing a fleeing suspect the chase started at new york's 52nd and arch in west philadelphia. officers spotted a man who crashed on the sidewalk and bailed out and started running. police chased him to 53rd and race where an officer's gun went off accidently. a bullet narrowly missed the suspect's head. he was not hurt. >>> philadelphia police opened fire an a pitbull that was attacking a teenager this happened in the rear of higbee street in lawncrest. authorities say the dog bit the 16-year-old boy in the face. els

officers did nothing for gray-- according to investigators-- even though he kept saying he could not breathe. >> despite mr gray's appeals for a medic, both officers assessed mr. gray'stion and at no point did either of them restrain mr. gray per p.b.d. general order, nor did they render or request medical assistance. >> woodruff: the van was then called to pick up a second prisoner. by that point, gray was unresponsive, but the prosecutor said: >> despite mr gray's seriously deteriorating medical condition, no medical assistance was rendered or summoned for mr. gray at that time by any officer. >> woodruff: when the van finally arrived at baltimore's western district police station, gray's condition had worsened significantly. >> mr. gray was no longer breathing at all. a medic was finally called to the scene where upon arrival a medic determined that mr. gray was now in cardiac arrest and was critically and severely injured. >> woodruff: gray was rushed to a local hospital for surgery. he died one week later. the case touched off days of protests demanding the officers be prosecuted. mosby's response today followed an investigation by police-- and a separate probe

mr. gray and mr. gray -- and they're mistaken and then we're going to just start charging police officers because they are making a good faith error, then we're going to wind up arresting a lot of police around here and i can tell you, i've talked to police as recently as an hour ago in baltimore who don't want to arrest anybody because they're worried they're going to get arrested themselves if there happens to be a bad stop or a bad seizure or a bad arrest which happens all the time in criminal cases. it's part of the process. the normal remedy is evidence is excluded and that is the attention against the police, not that the police get charged. this could set an incredibly bad precedence, what they're doing here. >> but andrew levy, police can lie about their good faith. that can be an after the fact lie about what actually happened. so where will this adjudication be made on this issue of good faith in terms of the knife? >> well, there are really two questions, what lawyers call a subjective test and an op objective test. if their defense was we believed that this was an illegal knife even if they were mistaken, they have to have generally sought that and the jury has to believe that they genuinely sought that. it has to be an objectively reasonable belief. it can't be just a ridiculous idea. but typically a jury will reject it iffite not what we would say, you know, objectively reasonable. >> that's all the time we have for tonight on this. andy, andrew, thank you both for joining us. >> thank you. >>> coming up next, breaking news from the "new york times" tonight, there are new details about the gunman involved in that texas shooting, and allegations that they are tied to the islamic state. >>> and last week was thug week on cable news. in the rewrite tonight, i will explain why there is absolutely no journalistic justification for the use of the word thug in describing what happened in baltimore last week. look l e this. feel like this. look like this. feel like this. with dreamwalk insoles, turn shoes that can be a pain into comfortable ones. their soft cushioning support means you can look like this. and feel like this. dreamwalk. if you struggle with type 2 diabetes you're certainly not alone. fortunately, many have found a different kind of medicine that lowers blood sugar. imagine what it would be like to love your numbers. discover once-daily invokana®. it's the #1 prescribed in the newest class of medicines that work with the kidneys to lower a1c. invokana® is used along with diet and exercise to significantly lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. it's a once-daily pill that works around the clock. here's how: the kidneys allow sugar to be absorbed back into the body. invokana® reduces the amount of sugar allowed back in and sends some sugar out through the process of urination. and while it's not for weight loss, it may help you lose weight. invokana® can cause important side effects including dehydration, which may cause you to feel dizzy, faint, lightheaded, or weak especially when you stand up. other side effects may include kidney problems, genital yeast infections urinary tract infections changes in urination high potassium in the blood, or increases in cholesterol. do not take invokana® if you have severe kidney problems or are on dialysis. stop taking and call your doctor right away if you experience symptoms such as rash, swelling, or difficulty breathing or swallowing. tell your doctor about any medical conditions medications you are taking and if you have kidney or liver problems. using invokana® with a sulfonylurea or insulin may increase risk of low blood sugar. it's time. lower your blood sugar with invokana®. imagine loving your numbers. there's only one invokana®. ask your doctor about it by name. wait, what is that? 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>> well, it would certainly seem that way. that's always been a great threat and a great fear. back after 9/11, we identified the al qaeda leadership and there was a relatively finite group of people planning attacks against western interests. we could identify that network and go after it. what's happened since then is the moment has metastasized. and it is much more the lone wolf attack, individuals, just following them on social media and acting out. that is a much tougher thing to contain. that is a much larger group of people to keep your arms around. i think it's definitely a threat to the u.s. >>> steve clemens, a lot of debate today, is the islamic state really claiming credit for this? if they're encouraging people through twitter or other means to do this, people people who they don't necessarily have specific contacts with, it seems to me they get the credit. >> i agree with you. isis is in a competitive global branding campaign with other terrorists groups in the world trying to get people to mickic what the does, to pay homage to what it does and to inspire people to take actions that it instructs them to do from afar. so in that sense, they get credit. but it is not the same level as a deployment of someone who is well crafted and sculpted and trained by isis on-site and injected into american society to do tremendous demand. i agree with adam that it is something we should worry about. it's hard to sort of spot these lone wolfs or a couple wolfe attacks of this sort. but at the same time, it doesn't have the sophistication and impact of what al qaeda has been -- you know, their signature event. so to a certain degree, their levels of concern here that absolutely isis gets credit for this because it's in a global branding campaign and it's inspiring people to take these actions. >> so on april 23rd the "new york times" is reporting this is ten days before the texas attack, that one of the encouragers posted a message saying that the brothers from the "charlie hebdo" attack did their part. it's time for the brothers in the u.s. to do their part. specifically referencing the contest there to draw mohammed in texas? >> it speaks to the larger issue of the struggle. this is not just a fight against isis or al qaeda or boca haram. we need relationships within the moderate muslim groups to stop this ideology. it's one thing to try to stop an organized group that is exploiting a specific attack and sending somebody over. it's another thing to try to spot some lone person who is suddenly going to go radical. that ideology, it's going to take a much more comprehensive approach to defight that ideology. and i think working towards the muslim community is critical to that both in the u.s. and throughout the world. >> and the good news/bad news of this texas episode is the population around the area where this was taking place, they all knew about it, they were very well informed about it and their leader said just take it easy, this has nothing to do with us, let's just ignore it and they did. it took these guys coming over from arizona, that's the bad news, is that the local population's reaction to this is now not all that important when they can just come over from arizona. >> absolutely. and hats off to that community and to the mayor of that community who came out immediately and said we're not a -- they are don't have a majority ethnic group in that community. not white, not anything else. 24 114 languages. they basically said we are a tolerant community in texas that embraces all these cultures. they didn't necessarily support what pamela gutter's group was doing, but they certainly didn't support, either, the actions taken they say by these two men. so you've got an interesting episode where out of this, if you look at that community, there's a resilience that's extremely impressive and a mayor who stood up for the right thing in my view, which is to be tolerant, understanding, far beyond just the muslim community, but the rainbow of different ethnic groups in garland. >> thanks for joining us tonight and congressman steve smith please stay with us. but up next, how the brilliant amy schumer can be a more effective politician than her big cousin chuck schumer. ♪ ♪ when you're living with diabetes steady is exciting. only glucerna has carbsteady clinically proven to help minimize blood sugar spikes. i'm a bull rider make it part of your daily diabetes plan. so you stay steady ahead. the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born. after all, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned... every day... using wellness to keep away illness... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. for as the world keeps on searching for healthier... we're here to make healthier happen. optum. healthier is here. let's take a look at your credit. >>i know i have a 786 fico score, thanks to all the tools and help on experian.com. so how are we going to sweeten this deal? 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the accepted way of calling someone else the "n" word these days. >> i grew up in a white irish neighborhood in boston where every little boy in my elementary school would have welcomed the label "thug." we prized nothing more than toughness. all the thugs i heard and knew about were white, including one whose nickname was whitey. so when i hear the word "thug" i still think whitey bulger. but last week, african-american suspicions about what people mean when they hear the word "thug" hit its peak. >> isn't it that right word? >> no. it's not the right world to call our children thugs. these are children who have been set aside, marginalized, who have had have not been engaged by -- >> but that does not justify what they did. that's a sense from right to wrong. they know it's wrong to burn down a cvs and an old person's home. i mean, come on. >> come on? calling them thugs? call them [ bleep ]. just call them [ bleep ]. no. >> i understand what politicians were trying to convey when they used the word thug. in that moment, they were trying to communicate with white americans, including white baltimoreans who don't trust them to do everything they possibly can to stop looting and rioting to stop order. the mayor now says she was speaking out of anger and frustration and she regrets using that word. >> i should not have characterized people's kids as thugs. it was -- i'm sure you understand how intense and what a pressure cooker this week has been and, you know, like i said, i certainly regret saying it. >> people complained about the mayor using that word and so she decided to stop using it. imagine bill o'reiley doing that. well, he did. he just didn't do it on tv. when bill o'reiley was a kid growing up on long island, the polite word for african-american was negro or colored by by the time he got to college, those words were being overtaken by black and african-american and it wasn't bill o'reiley's idea to stop using the word negro or colored, but he did. he stopped using those words because african-americans didn't want to hear those words any more. the transitions took a while. there were many people, white and black, who had groan attached to the old words and didn't see any reason to change them. but eventually, the words negro and colored stopped. so the question now facing bill o'reiley is how many african-americans have to complain before he stops using the word "thug"? >> these idiotic thugs rioting and looting -- >> is a point of cultural embarrassment for me to watch the great white fight for the right to use the word "thug" being led by irish americans at their cable news desks. erin burnett, bill o'reiley, megan kelly. >> i'm thinking thugs is not far off the mark. >> who appointed the irish, the judges of which words are racist? how did that happen? to my colleagues in the television news business, i beg you, beg you, when you're getting ready to use the word "thug" on national television, ask yourself, what the word "thug" adds to the discussion. while thugs burned, pillaged and plundered. >> the rioters and the thugs -- >> howie, you could have just said rioters. now, i know howie kurtz. i know he didn't mean anything racial by the use of the word "thug," but millions of african-americans don't know him and many of them might suspect that he just might mean something racist. so, again, to my colleagues in television news, please, please just stop and think about this. for just a minute. i ask a minute of your thought time. please ask yourself what word would a white racist use today on television, on your show, to describe those people we saw throwing stones at police last week and looting a cvs. what would be the first word of choice? for a virulent racist to use on your show about those people and know for certain that he or she could get away with using that word? it would be thug. you know it would be thug. and african-americans know it would be thug. so now you have to ask yourself, before you make your comments on national television how many millions of african-americans, how many millions of african-american kids are you willing to allow to suspect that you might be racist? how many? and here is what's so very nutty about this whole thing. you don't need to use that word that create that suspicion, the word that so many people on television seem so eager to use. we don't need that word. we don't need it. there is absolutely nothing that needs to be said about what has happened in baltimore that demands the use of the word "thug," nothing. so the good news is, we can just drop it, just like that. that's how easy it is to fix this problem of possible misunderstanding. we can just drop the word thug. we know how to do that. it's not hard. we now how to stop using words in certain ways or stop using them completely. forever. that is why no one is calling anyone who broke the law in baltimore a negro or a ruffian. if you continue to fight for the right to use the word thug on television, the one thing we can be sure of is it's not because we're trying to add to our understanding of the story. ameriprise asked people a simple question: can you keep your lifestyle in retirement? 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mr. gray caused harm to mr. gray and they are truly saddened by his death. grave concerns about the fairness integrity of the prosecution. >> now, the central part of this investigation was freddie gray's transportation to the police station. for a detailed timeline of that ride open the nbc washington app right on your phone. >>> this morning people need your help solving a triple shooting in prince george's county. we brought you this breaking news story last night. the shooting happened at a strip mall in capitol heights. three men were shot. one in critical condition, the others expected to be okay. this was not a random attack police said. if you have any information, call police. >>> all right. our breaking news story of the morning, the british royal family is welcoming a new princess. her royal highness the duchess of cambridge has given birth to a girl. she weighs 8 pounds and 3 ounces. >> and earlier we were looking at st. mary's hospital in paddington this morning. that's where you can see the town crier making the announcement in the most traditi

gray's pleas for an inhaler and medical help were denied. >> no medical assistance was rendered or summoned for mr. gray at that time. >> the police union backed the officers. >> no officer injured mr. gray, caused harm to mr. gray, and they're truly saddened by his death. these officers did nothing wrong. the union is calling for a special prosecutor to be appointed, a notion rejected by mosby. freddie gray's family spoke out about the charges. >> we think that the state--we thank the state attorney and the team for their response to this crisis. we must be mindful that this is the first step not the last. >> president obama reacted to news of the charges saying that the issue is a top priority for his administration. >> i think the people want more than anything else is the truth. that's what people around the country expect. >> but baltimore's mayor had a message for her city's police officers. >> to those of you who wish to engage in brutality misconduct racism and corruption, let me be clear there is no place in the baltimore city police department for you. >> state senator catherine pew has been arm in arm with elijah cummins each night since the curfew has been imposed. she said m

gray. other officers assisted him. >> sergeant white, who was responsible for investigating two citizen complaints pertaining to mr. gray's illegal arrest, spoke to the back of mr. gray's head. when he did not respond, she did nothing further, despite the fact that she was advised that he needed a medic. she made no effort to look or assess or determine his condition. >> reporter: gray finally arrived at the western district police station after 9:00 a.m. >> mr. gray was no longer breathing at all. a medic was finally called to the scene, where, upon arrival the medic determined that mr. gray was now in cardiac arrest and was critically and severely injured. >> reporter: gray died a week later. the most serious charges were leveled against officer goodson, the driver of the van. >> officer goodson, in a grossly negligent manner, chose to respond to the 1600 block of west north avenue with mr. gray still unsecured by a seat belt in the wagon without rendering to or summoning medical assistance for mr. gray. >> reporter: attorney michael davey is representing one of the officers but spoke today for all six. he says they did nothing wrong. >> we believe that the actions t

gray dying and can't be blamed for his death. attorney michael davey represents officer brian rice. >> no officer injured mr. gray, caused harm to mr. graynd they are truly saddened by his death. these officers did nothing wrong. >> no justice! >> no peace! >> reporter: for the people marching in baltimore, the case against the police is a major point of discussion, including what happens if the officers are acquitted. this is baltimore resident louis hammonds: >> the city is going to be in an uproar. everybody is going to be irate. it doesn't matter what color you are-- black white whatever-- yellow, red-- whatever. everyone's going to be upset because everyone feels let down by the system. >> reporter: for now those charges have helped bring a relative sense of calm to baltimore because timely there's explanation of what happened. but that explanation is a long way from guilt and it's clear the police will have a strong defense. jim. >> axelrod: wyatt andrews in baltimore. wyatt, thank you. tension between police officers and african americans have dominated the headlines in many american cities for months now. take cleveland, where th

mr. gray's arrest as no crime had been committed by mr. gray. accordingly lieutenant rice and officer miller and officer nero illegally arrested mr. gray. at no point was he secured by a seat belt while in the wagon contrary to a bpd general order. mr. gray suffered a severe and critical neck injury as a result of being handcuffed and shackled by his feet and unrestrained inside of the bpd wagon. despite mr. gray's seriously deteriorating medical condition, no medical assistance was rendered or summoned for mr. gray at that time. these accusations of these six officers are not an indictment on the entire force. >> i'm tour'e live again in baltimore. a city where many feel this is the first step towards accountability and perhaps justice being served. charges against the six officers involved in what the state's attorney calls the unlawful arrest of 25-year-old freddie gray. one officer faces second degree depraved heart murder charges and three others facing involuntary manslaughter and misconduct in office are also among the charges. the most severe carries a sentence up to 30 years in prison. right now members of the baltimore united c

mr. gray. despite stopping for the purpose of checking mr. gray's condition, at no point did he render medical assistance for mr. gray. >> finally after gray repeatedly called for medical attention by police mosby details another encounter with an officer. >> sergeant white responsible for investigating two citizen complaints pertaining to gray's illegal arrest spoke to the back of mr. gray's head. when he did not respond, she did nothing despite the fact she was advised he needed a medic. she made no effort to look assess or determine his condition. >> we have reaction from the streets in baltimore all the way to the white house. it has been swift. president obama offering these thoughts moments ago. >> let me just say this. building on what i said in the rose garden it's absolutely vital the truth comes out on what happened to mr. freddie gray. it is my practice not to comment on the legal processes involved. that would not be appropriate. i can tell you justice needs to be deserved. >> as we mentioned at any moment we are going to be hearing from baltimore's mayor stephanie raw lings-blake. she'll give her fir

freddie gray inside the police van -- he never should have been arrested. >> no crime had been committed by mr. gray. >> gray was found carrying a knife, but the prosecutor said it was legal. >> mray was placed in a prone position with his arms handcuffed behind his back. it was at this time that mr. gray indicated that he could not breathe. and requested an inhaler to no avail. >> mosby says not only did the officers fail to get gray medical help they made another grave mistake when they put him into this police van. >> at no point was he secured by a seat belt while in the wagon, contrary to a bpd general order. >> the van drove away from the scene. and while the exact route is unknown, made its first stop here. where officers took gray out of the van to put shackles on his legs and flex cuffs on his wrist. >> officer miller officer nero and lieutenant rice loaded mr. gray back into the wagon. placing him on his stomach, head-first on to the floor of the wagon. one again, mr. gray was not secured by a seat belt in the wagon. >> the officer driving van made another stop here. >> >> despite stopping for the purpose of checking on mr. gray's condition. at no point did he seek nor

mr. gray caused harm to mr. graye truly saddened by his death. >> reporter: moebsy is pressing ahead despite calls for an independent prosecutor. >> we have conducted a thorough and independent investigation of this case. >> reporter: and freddie gray's family called on everyone to respect the family. >> without justice there's no peace, but we -- but let us have peace in the pursuit of justice. >> reporter: family's attorney says they have not said the officers are guilty or innocent. they simply want to see justice carried out in had next step in that case looks to be a preliminary hearing at the end of the month. jim? >> thanks chris. >>> new tonight a man from baltimore is in jail accused of slashing a fire hose during the violence there on monday night. the state fire marshal says greg bailey has been accused of cutting a hose as fire fighters tried to slow down the flames ripping through that cvs store that we've talked about a minute ago. fire investigators say the immediate drop in pressure cassed by that sla

mr. gray's arrest as no crime had been committed by mr. gray. accordingly, lieutenant rice officer miller and officer narrow illegally arrested mr. gray. >> so, again freddie gray's death ruled a homicide and criminal charges will be filed against six baltimore police officers. back to you. >> all right, kristin wright. let's take a look at the weather as we head into the weekend. this is a live picture of the washington landscape. amelia segal is going to tell us what the weather is looking like that. looks good. how the rest of the weekend? >> for today cooler than yesterday, noticeably cooler. now heading into the afternoon hours, temperatures hover in the mid-60s with scattered showers and limited sunshine. so keep that small umbrella handy. for saturday, a high of 72 maybe an afternoon shower otherwise partly sunny skies, sunday looking like the better of the two weekend day, warmer, plenty of sunshine low humidity and a high temperature of 78. now looking ahead to next weekend, temperatures continue to warm i'll let you know by how much coming up in a bit. >> thanks amelia. a busy day in our >>> in just a few more hours, two

mr. gray and these police officers were familiar to one another. and mr. gray had good reason not to want to have another encounter with officers because of their reputation, because the fear he may have been subject to different type of violence -- certainly, not one that would have taken his life. but the fact is, the experience and the black community in the white community could not be more different among most people. and that doesn't mean there aren't many good police officers who are there trying to establish a much better relationship -- and that is always the hope. that is all was the optimism is that out of this tragedy will come a much better relationship with -- where the police will engage in a different type of policing, where judges will not use bail to punish, to keep people in jail when it is not necessary, and where we have so many people arrested -- we have about -- if we take 100 arrests there's only 35 to 40 people who ultimately are convicted of crime. that is throughout the state of maryland. that means about 50% of the people are being charged with crimes that are not resulting in convictions. many of those are in jail. and when they are in jail, they lose jobs, they lose their home, and they're separated from family. we can do so much better. amy: and the issue also raised by the fraternal order of police that the police are entitled to their constitutional rights when questions were asked about why five of the six had apparently spoken, but one of them hadn't at that point. this issue -- and i believe it is different across the country. but a kind of code of silence, a 10 day grace. -- grace period. what is the period that police do not have to explain what happened? >> that is where we should focus much of our attention. there's a 10 day grace period in which the officers involved in the killing or an injury to citizen have the right not to be questioned not to be asked what happened at the scene. and the officers can take, and often do take him advantage of that. and so during those 10 days, at least the appearance of collusion is taking place. and in many situations, the police have an opportunity to think together, to come forward with an explanation that might fit the situation but may not be the whole truth. and one of the things that we need to look at here is why we give police and only police a 10 day period of silence, and then, of course, the police code of silence -- the blue wall that we've heard mentioned before -- for many, many years now. the police were present, the six officers know the truth. they know what happened. but the police code of salat says, do not testify against a brother or sister officer. and that is obstructing justice. we have to figure out when police officers can come forward . and i'm hoping in this case, that one or more will. the ones who had the least involvement in this. my hope is this will be an opportunity to eliminate the wall of silence because that is what is making it almost impossible to reach the truth and a find out what happened. amy: doug colbert, the other issue raised by the attorneys for the six police officers that marilyn mosby has conflict of interest because she received a campaign donation from freddie gray's attorney. what about the fact she also received campaign contributions on the fraternal order of police? >> there's a real reach here, amy. the motion to dismiss, in my opinion if it ever applied to other defendants brought into a system without must make a difficult, impossible for the elected state official to prosecute crime. so when people give the campaign donation, if that is grounds for elimination, or if people have some relationship outside of this particular office with the state's attorney, you really have to show that the state's attorney is doing something, is taking some action that is inappropriate. and i don't think whether it is miss mosby are one of our top investigative journalist, who for many years has been presenting information about the police -- which i'm sure did not make many police officers happy -- but there really is a full scale challenge, almost an attack, on anyone who might be doing something that the police union is opposed. amy, you mentioned earlier, and i did not get to this, but the bill that was set for that young man of $500,000 and other high bails for property-type crimes that is where we begin often or sometimes at least, there are judges who use ale and appropriately. this was a young man, kelly, who did not have any parking convictions, who voluntarily surrendered with his parents to the court. and you would think in that situation that you would have followed the law and said a bail that was -- set a bill that was something the family could have posted. it when you set an extreme bail that is so excessive and violets of persons constitutional rights, again, it revives an opportunity -- provides an opportunity to question, why are we using money to decide people's freedom? we have a system -- amy: when we come back, i would ask a final question that goes to the case that was made famous through the podcast serial, since you are his bail attorney. we will ask yoyou that in 30 seconds. ♪ [music break] amy: prince performed in baltimore this weekend. this is democracy now! democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. our guest is doug colbert, an attorney and professor of law the university of maryland and school of law. i want to turn right now to the case of adnan said. international attention when it was the focus of serial, considered the most popular podcast ever and podcasting's first breakout hit. the first ever podcast when a peabody award. he was convicted of killing his girlfriend in 1999 and has been serving a life sentence. his legal team argues prosecutors failed to interview an alibi witness and that his lawyer failed to inquire about a possible plea deal. the podcast provided an in-depth look at the case and explore potential flaws with the prosecution and said's defense. in february, the court agreed to hear arguments about why adnan she did a new trial. he is now seeking a new trial based on the contention he is ineffective counsel. you were his bail hearing attorney. you talk about the significance of the court's ruling and what will happen in june? >> yes we represent a mr for the first 30, 35 days after his arrest. and we represented him at two bail hearings. the purpose of ordering his release would have made a tremendous difference at trial itself. and had the judge accepted the fact there were 60 to 70 people from his community who were in court to vouch for his credibility -- amy: we just have 20 seconds. >> what we're looking at with the prosecution using adnan's race, nationality, and religion for a reason to keep them in jail. those are factors that only wish have been disregarded by the court. amy: role arguments to nine in this case, the case of adnan sai d. doug colbert -- >> i think it will be delayed. the state has asked for additional time. we will see. right now it is still scheduled for june 9. but there may be a postponement. amy: doug colbert, director of the access to justice pretrial clinic and founder of lawyers at bail project. 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