mr. greenburg and the shareholders. >> rose: you come back to what mr. denser said who is the government's lawyer. he said it's like they've said thanks for the life boats, but they're just not comfortable enough. in his opening argument. >> in some ways aig's interests are aligned with the government here. because as we have reported in a story at the "the wall street journal," there are some indemnification provisions in the credit facility that is at the heart of this case. so if, if mr. greenburg wins this case, if star wins this case and there is some big award, the government could turn to aig and say well, we like your help paying for this. there are some good reasons why aig could get, you know, arguably could get out of that indim anyification agreement. but it's an interesting twist here. >> rose: aaron, how is aig doing now, some eight, nine years later? >> it's doing okay. that's part of what the government has been saying. is look, to get to the previous point about damages, where are the damages here? the aig shareholders might have obvious