mr. gwynne: that was her cousin rachel parker plumber. >> [inaudible] do you have access to it? mr. gwynne: yes. this is one of the great things that you have at your disposal. rachel plumbers diary which is an unbelievable account for the very few captives she was taken for many months on to the planes so it is rather extraordinary. it is published. i also held the original. yes. i don't know how many libraries are around here but in texas the rare book collections will have it. i don't know if i could get it in most mains lay berries but in the rare book collections, you easily could. >> your description of the comanches ability to fight on their horses was absolutely fascinating. there are a few statistics on how fast they could fire in an arrow as compared to loading a rifle. maybe once you have not read the book would be interested in that. mr. gwynne: you are talking about their amazing abilities with the horse. the first time americans saw that was the expedition of 1834 that ran into them. they simply could not believe what they were looking at. there are people today who can

mr. gwynne: hello, everybody. thank you for coming. i want to talk this afternoon about how i came to this book or how the book came to me. how a connecticut yankee public career in journalism and failed attempts at fiction suddenly decides he wants to be a historian. not only that, but that he wants